Wanted: Domain Appraisal Genomes.co.uk

[jimmc]

Hi I'm new here and I wanted to find out from members what they think the value is of what I "think" is a premium domain?.

genomes.co.uk: I've got it over at sedo and there have been two offers. I've valued it a 2000, but I see genome.co.uk is on there also a 8000.

Dont want to be too greedy but would like to get the best price.

Any help appreciated....

 

[jacal1]

Welcome! You have greatly undervalued this name in this age of the explosion of DNA science. A company working with DNA to find cures, or ways to foster human enhancement, would pay a nice amount for that name.

My thoughts, in GBP, would be:

genome.co.uk: 5000 quick sell, 10000 end user

genomes.co.uk: 3000 quick sell, 6000 end user

 

[jimmc]

Thanks for this jacal....

 

[ScottJ]

Perhaps in the .com market it would be very valuable but .co.uk would not have the same commerical value and be worth probably up to around £1000 imo.

I know of some very comparable domains purchased for £500 to £1500 which would be equally as good as genomes.

Genes - now that's worth £6k

 

[jimmc]

Perhaps in the .com market it would be very valuable but .co.uk would not have the same commerical value and be worth probably up to around £1000 imo.

Thanks for this too, however I like jacal valuation better

Seriously though, while I know its not a dot.com I believe the .co.uk url is the one country-specific url that bucks the dot com trend and that in itself has a lot of value.

Comon we Brits dont have too much to shout about so lets celebrate that...

 

[jacal1]

Unfortunately, Scott is my senior when it comes to valuing .co.uks.

If he is right (and this is likely) or even close to it, I would put this one in the investment category and put it away for a while. I own a few in this area because it is a very dynamic field that is moving from speculative to truly viable and strong.

 

[FC Domains]

I really can't see where the value is. It's a generic word, but who would want it as their web site. How many people could spell it?

I'd be happy with £100. Possibly very happy.

 

[jacal1]

I really can't see where the value is.

That's a good question to pose to one of the exibitors at the Genomes Conference just last month in Manchester, UK (including some multi national companies with serious ad budgets):

Q Chip Ltd
Ariadne
Beckman Coulter
PolyQuant GmbH
Thermo Fisher Scientific
Caliper Life Sciences
Whatman International
Springer
Wellcome Trust
Agilent Technologies UK Ltd
Roche
GeneGo
Metabion
Deerac Fluidics
BioMed Central
Integrated DNA Technologies
Stretton Scientific Limited
NaCTeM
Qiagen
EBI
Science AAAS
GenoLogics
Illumina
ECACC
Eurogentec
The University of Manchester Intellectual Property Limited (UMIP)
The University of Manchester Incubator Company Limited (UMIC)
University of Liverpool - Business Gateway
Genetix
Tecan
Eppendorf
RTS Life Science
LECO Instruments
Operon Biotechnologies GmbH

Or maybe one of the speakers at the conference could tell us how they'd use it for their company, university, or project:

Robert Huber FRS (Martinsried and Cardiff)
Tom Gingeras (Affymetrix)
Greg Elgar (QMUL)
Manolis Dermitzakis (Sanger, Hinxton)
Sam Hanash (Seattle)
Ruedi Aebersold (Zurich)
Mike Gillette (Broad, MIT)
Walter Kolch (Glasgow)
Matej Oresic (VTT Finland)
Jules Griffin (Cambridge)
John Haselden (GSK, Herts)
John Griffiths (Cambridge)
John Mattick (Brisbane)
Luis Serrano (Barcelona)
Mike Hucka (CalTech, Pasadena)
Nicolas Le Novère (EBI, Hinxton)
Ursula Kummer (EML, Heidelberg)
Hiroaki Kitano (SBI, Tokyo)
Gene-Wei Li (Harvard)
Brahim Lounis (Bordeaux)
David Klenerman (Cambridge)
Ruben Gonzalez (Columbia, NY)
Larry DeLucas (Birmingham, AL)
James Naismith (St Andrews)
Stephen Cusack (EMBL, Grenoble)
Ian Wilson (Scripps)
Anne Dell (ICL)
Rob Beynon (Liverpool)
Blagoy Blagoev (Denmark)
Simon Hubbard (Manchester)
Alfonso Valencia (CNB, Madrid)
Lynette Hirschman (MITRE)
Jun'ichi Tsujii (Tokyo and Manchester)
Andrey Rzhetsky (Columbia)
John Heidelberg (USC)
Jed Fuhrman (USC)
Ian Joint (PML, Plymouth)
Francisco Rodriguez-Valera (Alicante)
Ron Breaker (Yale)
James Ferrell (Stanford)
Mike White (Liverpool)
Olivier Pourquie (Kansas City)
Andrew Millar (Edinburgh)
Bélá Novak (Oxford)
Craig Crews (Yale)
Mike Ferguson (Dundee)
Matthew Bogyo (Stanford)
Nick Westwood (St Andrews)
Sanjay Sisodiya (UCL)
Mia Wadelius (Uppsala)
Ann Daly (Newcastle)
Caroline Lee (Singapore)
Masaru Tomita (Tokyo)
Steve Oliver (Cambridge)
Matthias Reuss (Stuttgart)
David Richardson (Norwich)
John Quackenbush (Harvard)
Ernst Wit (Lancaster)
Wolfgang Huber (EBI)
Enrico Petretto (ICL)
François Radvanyi (CNRS - Institut Curie)
Rene Bernards (The Netherlands Cancer Institute)
Anne-Lise Børresen-Dale (Oslo, Norway)
Alex Graham (AstraZeneca)
Hans Westhof (Manchester)
Sam Griffiths-Jones (Manchester)

 

[retired_member16]

There are a lot of companies in the pooper-scooper business too, but how many of them want to buy dogshit.co.uk?

That said, I dont even know what Genomes means but a generic is a generic so there must be some value there somethere.

 

[ScottJ]

There is certainly value but you'd possibly have to put this one away for many years to get it into the xxxx's if you were lucky enough to find an end user, Jackal's list is exactly the type of research you would need to do to get out there and find a specific target audience. In saying that I'd buy it for £500.

 

[maverick123]

this is a nice domain, hold on to it unless you get special offer

 

[jimmc]

Thanks Jacal great list and its given me some thoughts...

 

[jimmc]

I really can't see where the value is. It's a generic word, but who would want it as their web site. How many people could spell it?

I'd be happy with £100. Possibly very happy.

The value is in the fact it is a generic, in an sector of importance, already got xxxx offer for it.

 

[jimmc]

this is a nice domain, hold on to it unless you get special offer

Thanks Maverick, it is a good name and the fact the UK are leaders in the dna market gives it extra clout. As I say already know I can get xxxx for it but think I'll hold, but would be interested in what you thought would be a special offer??

This is all really interesting, not knowing much about the whole .co.uk market - I'm going to post a couple of others for appraisal as while I appreciate there are domainers on here, unlike other forums it would appear people on here are prepared to give domainer and end-user values and that in my book ='s fair play...

 

[woopwoop]

I think your original valuation of 2k was about right.

I think that there should be a bunch of categories of generics when making valuations.

There are generics like cat, biscuit, day, truck
and there are generics like genome, olfactory, hypothalamus, pituitary

Could be argued that some on the last list aren't true generics but are terms/technical names.

The first list is in a different league of course.

A bunch of these gene-related names are popping up recently. I think I even saw genomics.co.uk somewhere.

 

[jimmc]

I think your original valuation of 2k was about right.

I think that there should be a bunch of categories of generics when making valuations.

There are generics like cat, biscuit, day, truck
and there are generics like genome, olfactory, hypothalamus, pituitary

Could be argued that some on the last list aren't true generics but are terms/technical names.

The first list is in a different league of course.

A bunch of these gene-related names are popping up recently. I think I even saw genomics.co.uk somewhere.

Thanks (I thought) that as a price for today £2k was about right, 6 months time it could double, in fact truth is it could be double today, but thats dependent on how much somone wants it.

Jacal is actually bang on the money with his list, if anyone wanted to go after the best price its down to doing a little research and hitting on a few of the blue-chips who might want the name as a future banker - I'm sure many of them (if they gave it some thought) would want to be known as mr/mrs Genomes in the United Kingdom!!

I believe genomics (the study of genomes).co.uk, which for me not a touch on this went for £1500.

As I say I've got a couple of names on Sedo but dont really know a lot about them - Tempted to take the most recent offer I have as a (reserve) and put it to auction to see where it goes - Do you think others would go for it, anyone?

Cheers.....

 

[jimmc]

Hello All,

Genomes.co.uk is for sale, I decided to hold it last year and because of other things I have not done anything with it. However due to recent situations and because I want to get involved in an environmental project I've had on the back burner for way too long that I hope will help everyone and that I will enjoy - I'm accepting offers.

GREAT NAME; I'm not even going to try to sell it - offers please.

Regards, Jim.

 

[accelerator]

That said, I dont even know what Genomes means but a generic is a generic so there must be some value there somethere.

Remind me to contact you next time I have a very obscure generic to sell

Put simply, a genome is the genetic sequence of an organism. I would say this is a premium domain in a growth market. Genetics technology will continue to grow as a commercial market. I would not just be putting this domain on Sedo and hoping for the best, but I would be marketing it to life sciences companies. I think a little marketing could go a long way to increasing sale price on this domain. The problem with the domain is perhaps that it is not related to many consumer products yet, but I still think a £2k valuation would be on the conservative side. Biosciences is awash with cash in some areas.

EDIT - maybe £2k is around about right because I don't see many ads on Google and I can't see a strong commercial case for a company wanting it just yet. I think you've set the expectation about right, just see what offers come in.

Rgds

 

[mat]

 

[jimmc]

...I still think a £2k valuation would be on the conservative side. Biosciences is awash with cash in some areas.

EDIT - maybe £2k is around about right because I don't see many ads on Google and I can't see a strong commercial case for a company wanting it just yet. I think you've set the expectation about right, just see what offers come in.

Rgds

Thanks, have had a good few xxx offers and a couple xxxx on this via Sedo but not at the £2k yet and I think its worth that. Actually just had another email saying another offer in, havent looked yet.

However do want out of the whole domain thing and I'm raising funds for environmental charities and a new eco project.