Help with transferring a domain and more......

[R Clark]

Hello
I hope this is the right place to ask this question. I purchased a .london domain when they first came out but you didn't really know who you were buying it from. It turned out to be a company called Minds and Machines. To be honest I was only really after the domain for a personal email address. Minds and Machines in the first year did not offer email hosting but they did in the second year. They have now stopped supporting these domains and have transferred everything to a company called Uniregistry. They also do not offer email hosting. Here is my problem. Apparently I can't just transfer it anywhere to a company that does offer email hosting as it is classed as a premium domain name - I assume because it is just my surname - clark.london
Firstly, I really don't know what are the reliable companies and what aren't, but I did have an online chat with goDaddy and they cannot transfer it because of the fact it is called as premium.
Can anyone advise me what my best bet would be next. Obviously it is more expensive that a standard domain, I have gone on to Uniregistry and the renewal is $150 but obviously with no email it's not really any good to me personally.
Apologies for the length and if this is the wrong place to post.
Thank you very much in advance.
Regards

 

[Murray]

Not much point me replying because someone will give a better answer soon..

But can you change the nameservers? if so, is it not just a case of buying a hosting/email plan elsewhere and changing the nameservers to point there

Found a link saying how to do that at uniregistry

https://uniregistry.help/my-account-en/how-do-i-update-my-name-server-records/

ps. clark.london doesn't seem like a great name for an email address

 

[R Clark]

ha ha - it sounds better when my name is before the @ .....

thank you for the link, but here is where I am completely ignorant. When you say change the nameservers - is that something that comes from the hosting email company?

Are some companies better than others for email hosting?

 

[Skinner]

I would follow Murrays advice. You can get a jolt.co.uk mini hosting package for 2 yrs for about £15 using the discount code 75off. Its advertised everywhere.

 

[R Clark]

thank you for the suggestion of jolt.co.uk - really sorry for being a total idiot - but looking on there is says web hosting, but can't find any mention of email hosting....
should I be embarassed about what I just asked you????

 

[Murray]

thank you for the link, but here is where I am completely ignorant. When you say change the nameservers - is that something that comes from the hosting email company?

Yes, I use tsohost, you buy a hosting package (I think there's one for like £15 a year) you add your domain name, you add the tsohost namesevers on uniregistery which will be something like "1.tsohost.co.uk" "2.tsohost.co.uk (might not be exactly that)

You have a control panel on tshost, you go to emails, create one with the name you want and password, click create and now you have an email address you would login to via http://webmail.gridhost.co.uk/

It's fairly straight forward, whatever hosting company you go with will have a step by step guide better than the above I'm sure

 

[Skinner]

Further to Murrays suggestion, you can also use a forwarder to your chosen email, such as gmail, and set gmail to send emails under that name too.

All webhosting comes with the ability to use email. Have a look at cPanel guides on youtube on setting up email, its very simple. It may seem daunting but its really easy.

 

[martin-s]

$150 a year for an email address! Madness!

 

[Admin]

Don't think of 'email hosting' just think of 'hosting'....just buy a cheap hosting account and they will tell you what its nameservers are...then put those into your domain management control panel at your domain registrar

 

[Admin]

If he had even been able to acquire his surname under .com 15 years ago from someone else for $10k or even $5k as a one off payment he would still have spent more than $150 per year spread over those years, until now, on doing so. He was unlikely to have been able to acquire clark.com for either of those amounts back then, assuming he'd been considering it at that time.

Also I am surprise how little those in this thread are suggesting is sensible to spend to host email. £15 a year/two year via a cheap web host account. That is the talk of crazy people. I would host my domain name DNS at a reputable premium provider and find a dedicated email hosting specialist and a seperate MX backup or employ dual delivery. None of this costs the earth but it's not going to be as cheap as £15 and should be more reliable ensuring my email is never offline or bouncing back to the sender.

You Sir... are very special! The chap doesn't know what nameservers are....your recommendation is therefore...well.... you can fill in the blank.

 

[Skinner]

Are you sure you don't want to suggest he gets 3 different unmanaged dedicated servers to host each thing, go to university to get his quals to run said system then put his email on it once sorted ?

He doesn't currently but if he can fill in a form to register a $150 a year domain name he will be able to follow instructions, perhaps with the aid of UniRegistry support, to onetime change some further form based records.

The reliability of his ongoing email will be much more important, in my opinion, since he is likely to check it daily and may rely on it for business. £15 to rely on a ropey hosting service for that isn't good advice. Come to think of it I likely spend that on email per month, if not more. No downtime ever.

 

[Admin]

No. Quite the opposite. I'm often finding those that self host their email on their own servers send me the most bounces. Far better to have competent providers managing it I feel.

Nobody mentioned self hosting

 

[Murray]

If he had even been able to acquire his surname under .com 15 years ago from someone else for $10k or even $5k as a one off payment he would still have spent more than $150 per year spread over those years, until now, on doing so.

Since you raise this argument, I assume you must think clark dot london will have some resale value in the future? otherwise it's a moot point

 

[Adam H]

Point the domain to a premium DNS provider, even if its someone like DNS made easy or cloudflare ............then sign your self up to Google Business email. For £3 a month per email address. Point your MX records to Google in one of the providers above and you have a reliable, well respected email setup.

Cloudflare free account ( free obviously ) Google Business email £3 a month with a reliable provider. Cloudflare are not the greatest but for email DNS hosting.......you can easily change if you needed and its more reliable than most cpanel or registrar provided mail .

So £3 a month, probably better than most peoples email setup.

 

[Boluji]

@Adam H Yes I would love to support your advice. I have seen such before but presently I could not lay my hand on the link. I would suggest you need to paste here the link to the Cloudflare where the guy could follow to make the needful for his email address.
Cheers.

 

[Adam H]

@Adam H Yes I would love to support your advice. I have seen such before but presently I could not lay my hand on the link. I would suggest you need to paste here the link to the Cloudflare where the guy could follow to make the needful for his email address.
Cheers.

There is no link detailing exactly how to do it that I know of, but im sure a Google search might uncover someone previously done it. If someone doesnt understand basic DNS entries then id suggest hiring someone that does.

 

[Skinner]

I just had a look into the google business option, and I didn't know google had started charging for what they used to give free. Aside from some list management and a few minor bits, doesn't seem like their paid option offers much above and beyond their old free option or "standard" as they call it now.

I use gmail to handle most of my mail now, but don't use my own dns. Not much motivation to sign up to the $5 option for me. Their mail filtering and handling is very good though.

 

[Admin]

I just had a look into the google business option, and I didn't know google had started charging for what they used to give free. Aside from some list management and a few minor bits, doesn't seem like their paid option offers much above and beyond their old free option or "standard" as they call it now.

I use gmail to handle most of my mail now, but don't use my own dns. Not much motivation to sign up to the $5 option for me. Their mail filtering and handling is very good though.

Yeah I use 'Google Apps' too. They gave us early adopters a bonus, that is, we don't have to pay. You cannot get it for free anymore. It's great as you say, the filtering and searching are excellent.

 

[Boluji]

https://support.google.com/a/answer/175121?hl=en for comparison.

One of my essential paid only features is the dual delivery / mail routing unavailable in the legacy free version. It can be used to route all mail to one or more other mail servers. It's better doing it this way if, for example, one also uses Microsoft Exchange, perhaps as part of Office 365, rather than just a "Copy & Forward" within each mailbox, because all mail is dual routed to the additional mail server rather than just mail that has not been flagged as spam.

Unfortunately once Google has marked an email as spam it can't be automatically forwarded on if it is subsequently marked as not spam by a user.

Naturally there will be better support with the paid versions too.

Yap! Good if he follow this link, that could be the solution for him.

Cheers.