Nameserver Madness

[dtm]

I've just been onto the Web Domain Manager on my registrar account and found that for some reason when modifying nameservers for a domain I can search all nameservers associated with every domain with Nominet instead of it just showing the ones associated with your domains!

Is anyone else getting this? Reckon it is intentional on Nominet's part?

 

[retired_member13]

Nominet restructured their Nameserver database and registration schemas a couple of weeks ago - it's changed the Web Domain Manager & also the schemas used to register domains via the EPP.

I've just been onto the Web Domain Manager on my registrar account and found that for some reason when modifying nameservers for a domain I can search all nameservers associated with every domain with Nominet instead of it just showing the ones associated with your domains!

 

[Systreg]

Yes, it's bloody annoying , of the 200 nameservers listed, I use none of those, always have to do a search for the nameservers I use, which means opening my notepad to find the nameserver name I want to use so I can paste it in to their search box. Why can't they have a seperate tab for nameservers you use regularly, or a checkbox next to the others listed there so you can delete them.

 

[dtm]

Nominet restructured their Nameserver database and registration schemas a couple of weeks ago - it's changed the Web Domain Manager & also the schemas used to register domains via the EPP.

I see, I did notice also that they have collaborated the nameservers where you attach an IP address to with the ones where you don't.

ie. before I had both :
ns1.example.co.uk with a IPV4 definition 255.255.255.255 on example.co.uk
and a separate one for just
ns1.example.co.uk

and then used ns1.example.co.uk without the IPV4 definition on another domain for its DNS

Now the second domain has the IP definition too which doesn't really make sense to me.

 

[dtm]

Yes, it's bloody annoying , of the 200 nameservers listed, I use none of those, always have to do a search for the nameservers I use, which means opening my notepad to find the nameserver name I want to use so I can paste it in to their search box. Why can't they have a seperate tab for nameservers you use regularly, or a checkbox next to the others listed there so you can delete them.

It is incredibly annoying to be honest. I much preferred it when it only showed nameservers associated with your tag.

 

[dtm]

I don't believe you need the IP unless the domain name is hosted on a name server "within" it. So let's say you own example.co.uk and host it on ns1.example.co.uk; then it'd need the IP. It's called a glue record. Otherwise you should never need to specify the IP.

Ask Nominet Support for clarification.

I've asked Nominet for a feature to allow name server entries in that list to be removed by the administrator of a domain name where the name server no longer exists. If they don't allow that then the list of name servers will continue to get larger, and will contain more and more entries that may actually be redundant.

Thanks for the reply. This is what I mean, I did in this case need to create a glue record for my domain: example.co.uk so for ns1.example.co.uk I specified the IPv4 address of the DNS server through Nominet.

Then on another domain I then specified the nameservers as being just ns1/ns2.example.co.uk.

What I was saying is that now (unlike before where there were two records with nominet for each nameserver: one with the IP, one without) there is just the one with the IP and the WHOIS lookups reflect this, showing the ips alongside the nameservers.

 

[tifosi]

I thought you would only see the IP if it was authoratative for the domain? ie domain is erm domain.co.uk & namererver would be eg. ns1.domain.co.uk 123.456.12.345

 

[dtm]

I thought you would only see the IP if it was authoratative for the domain? ie domain is erm domain.co.uk & namererver would be eg. ns1.domain.co.uk 123.456.12.345

It used to be like this. This is why it doesn't seem to make sense, ie. Check my domain fordmustang.co.uk

It now shows the glue records for iseka.co.uk as its nameservers:

Domain name:
fordmustang.co.uk

<SNIP>

Name servers:
ns1.iseka.co.uk 195.234.42.1
ns2.iseka.co.uk 87.98.164.164

 

[tifosi]

In that case I'm hoping Nominet haven't f****ed up the upgrade!

Seems pretty useless to list ALL nameservers, and glue records afaik should be linked to authoratative domains only.

Maybe asking the question to nom-tech is appropriate?

S

 

[FagEnd]

It's crazy, when I first saw that I thought my account had been hacked. I much preferred the old way.