Organ Donation for Transplants

[Alien]

Did anyone see the recent BBC 1 documentary about organ transplants and the amazing gift they give to others who without them would die?

If you missed it, the BBC iPlayer has it here:

BBC1: Transplant

This reminded me to register as an organ donor and it's good to know if I depart this earth I can help someone else. I've been meaning to do this for some time, so if you have too, consider doing it now to let others know your wishes.

Please consider registering with the NHS to be a donor:

NHS Organ Donation

 

[GreyWing]

There is no point registering tbh mate, your family have the say no matter what you register for, it's pointless and it's a shame.

Here's what they should do and would solve everything regarding the shortage in 10 seconds flat.

You get to 18, you sign whether or not you want your organs to be donated when you die, you sign yes and your organs get donated regardless of what your family say.

You sign no, you have to be at the back of the queue if you ever need an organ. Only after every one on the organ register who is willing to donate has been sorted, will you then be in-line to receive one.

People under 18 and mentally disabled chaps are exempt. Should you change your mind from no to yes, you still can't get one for 10 years.

Basically, if you ain't willing to give then sod off if you fall ill.

Bish bash bosh, problem solved...

 

[Pred]

what about the free market?
we should at least be given the option to sell anything we don't need first
I may have to sell a kidney to get this .com i'm after
and don't want my collar felt for doing it






(j/k agree with first 2 posts)

it would be a far better idea to have a national referendum asking all these sorts of questions in one hit to save expense and then when (hopefully) majority people come back and say yes, just assume it's ok to take organs when dead
those who don't want organs taken for religious or squeamish reasons have to carry a card to say no!

on this referendum we can have other questions like going into europe etc
i guarantee majority of popualtion will say no

 

[Alien]

There is no point registering tbh mate, your family have the say no matter what you register for, it's pointless and it's a shame.

Mhmmm, interesting.

From what I can see registering whilst alive and with the ability to give consent and with the relevant capacity is giving clear consent that will overrule any relatives' wishes, e.g:

Both Human Tissue Acts state that if a person has, while alive and competent, given consent for some or all of their organs or tissue to be donated following his or her death (by joining the NHS Organ Donor Register or by other means, such as discussing their wishes with those closest to them), then that consent is sufficient for the donation to go ahead.

Once consent is established, relatives or other relevant people should be advised of the fact and encouraged to respect the deceased’s wishes. They will be treated with the utmost sensitively but advised that they have no legal right to veto or overrule them. In some cases, however, there still may be circumstances where donation may not be appropriate.

Source

 

[springer]

There is no point registering tbh mate, your family have the say no matter what you register for, it's pointless and it's a shame.

If you have given your explicit permission to donate then this cannot be overruled by family.

What will happen if my relatives object?

We know that in most cases families will agree to donation if they knew that was their loved one’s wish. If the family, or those closest to the person who has died, object to the donation when the person who has died has given their explicit permission, either by telling relatives, close friends or clinical staff, or by carrying a donor card or registering their wishes on the NHS Organ Donor Register, healthcare professionals will discuss the matter sensitively with them. They will be encouraged to accept the dead person’s wishes and it will be made clear that they do not have the legal right to veto or overrule those wishes. There may, nevertheless, be cases where it would be inappropriate for donation to go ahead.

http://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/ukt/how_to_become_a_donor/questions/answers/answers_15.jsp#q42

 

[GreyWing]

If you have given your explicit permission to donate then this cannot be overruled by family.

http://www.organdonation.nhs.uk/ukt/how_to_become_a_donor/questions/answers/answers_15.jsp#q42

They do all the time, the doctors will not proceed with organ recovery if the next of kin object.

The way those two examples of yours and above are worded is very legally crafted to give the impression that the deceased has final say, but that is legal jargon to cover themselves should the relative object later on. If what the examples above are accurate in the meaning that you guys accept they are, it could be shortened to one sentence "Your wishes of donation will proceed regardless, your next of kin can not object". But it doesn't and it is a sad thing that it doesn't.

If they can't reach your relatives and your organs are deteriorating and you are on the register, they will recover.

If your relatives are there and object to recovery, the doctors will not proceed. The doctors will not over rule the wishes of the relatives.

 

[Ashton]

The family have no legal standing to refuse recovery. The doctors could just take it and the family could not do anything about it. Why is it the doctors dont?

 

[GreyWing]

The family have no legal standing to refuse recovery. The doctors could just take it and the family could not do anything about it. Why is it the doctors dont?

Because Doctors don't want to be seen as taking advantage of grieving people. The person who wrote that is in a comfy office, the doctor has some grieving mother, father, son, daughter in his office and at the reality end of the situation.

Plus you don't need ID to sign someone up to the register, imagine I pretend to be you and sign the lot of you up from my laptop for a bit of a laugh, should I have rights over your family?

So there are loads of issues to why it isn't as simple as your name being there and that is all done and dusted.

I'm not saying that I support the rights of families to do it, but it is the way it is and that is why there is a shortage.

 

[AssetDomains]

It was an amazing documentary everyone should watch if you have the chance then take 5 minutes of your time to sign the register
If something unfortunate should happen to you honestly whats the point of letting your organs rot or go up in smoke when they have the potential to change so many lives

 

[BREWSTERS]

You get to 18, you sign whether or not you want your organs to be donated when you die, you sign yes and your organs get donated regardless of what your family say.

You sign no, you have to be at the back of the queue if you ever need an organ.

Good idea!


For some reason, I was against having my organs donated. The thing that changed my mind was seeing my Dad dead - 1 year ago next Tuesday.

He went peacefully in his sleep; got the call from my Mum at 6.30 in the morning - I live 10 minutes from their house whereas my brother and sisters are spread out. When I went up to see him before the medics / police arrived, it was odd but comforting; I was looking at his body...but it wasn't 'him' if you know what I mean - just the thing he was in.

That changed my mind - when I'm gone, they can have the lot and wifey knows that too. Don't know if anyone would want my liver though!