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  1. phablet

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    Hi,

    We've now had two direct offers for the 4 domains as a whole package in the £XXXX region. These where impressive offers and are still under consideration.

    The 4 domains are:

    Phablet.co.uk
    Phablet.uk
    Phablets.co.uk
    Phablets.uk (.uk Reg Rights)

    We where not looking at selling these but due to us moving into a physical estate agent outlet for lets and sales, we may be interested in releasing equity to pay towards our base if offers are acceptable.

    These have a lot of potential and could be perfect for an end-user or re-seller.

    All educated offers are very welcome via PM only for privacy reasons & Thank you.
     
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    What do big smartphones have to do with lettings?
     
  4. phablet

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    We are a lettings portal PhabLET & PhabLETS, i am guessing that your statement is why we received a few good offers.. They may be brokers, resellers or something like that we are guessing. Might actually be best to get our own broker onto this when thinking clearly about it. Thanks for the heads up!
     
  5. ChrisMM United Kingdom

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    I thought you were expanding into bricks and mortar due to the success of the online portal?

    How would this work if you were to sell the domains off?
     
  6. phablet

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    Well the thought is - bricks and mortar doesn't need to be based on the current brand and for the right amount we could unlock some of any value within the domains and pump that into the new agency and just change the brand.. therefore helps with the office costs etc..

    Just a fresh start and a way of releasing money for expansion. I mean any success from a portal wouldnt change the success of the 'high street' office.. sounds like a small backstep but may help fund physical expansion now that this possible opportunity has arisen and been offered..
     
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    Have you actually traded using phablets.co.uk?

    History suggests most of its life it has either redirected to a VigRX Plus website or has been for sale.
     
  8. phablet

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    Hello, PhabLet/PhabLets have never been solely for sale nor with a 'for sale' static page. From our records it has always been a developed website which includes previously a health VigRX portal site.

    & Yes PhabLet & PhabLets have been property portals for quite a long time now, far over a year and a half pushing two years as such & in different forms.
     
  9. diablo

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    Well, if you've had two impressive offers in the £XXXX region both are obviously seriously interested in buying the names.

    Why not send them to auction so that the two interest parties can bid against each other so that you can realise the best price for them?
     
  10. phablet

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    That's a good idea thank you.. Just wondering if they would be better listed separately or as a collection of 4 domains.. there does seem to be demand for these generic domains at present and i didn't expect this at all :rolleyes:
     
  11. phablet

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    So here is the info that has been sent to me from an adviser that i know..



    1) Mobiles.co.uk was sold to The Carphone Warehouse as a very successful company.. not sure how much it was.. (no reports..)

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    2) The following states that Mobile.co.uk sold for £120,000:
    ownthisdomain.co.uk/whybuy.php

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    3) The Acorn thread below states that MobilePhones.co.uk went up at auction among some potential & alleged confusion etc.. £91,500 was the stated final amount.. Triggered by an initial bid of £25k..

    In which someone also stated:

    "It's interesting, as about four years ago he wanted £250k for it. Although I hope it reaches a good price, I don't believe it will sell for more than £35k in the current climate."

    http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/sedo/66080-mobilephones-co-uk-sedo-auction-reserve-met-3.html

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    4) It was also stated that:

    "Finished at £91500, Interesting point about the .com version, perhaps they would have been better off selling the pair to an established mobile phone retailer but I guess they tried that first ?"

    http://www.fwitter.co.uk/mobilephones-co-uk-the-holy-grail-domain-name-on-sedo-auction-now/


    So final bid was by a possible company called 'ANY-Web' ?
    www.cressive.com/mobilephones-co-uk-to-decide-future-of-domain-auctions/

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    5) Phones.co.uk sold for £175,000? to a company called: a1comms

    Also recorded at the following link on acorn:

    http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/sold-domains/38211-phones-co-uk-175k.html
    ownthisdomain.co.uk/whybuy.php


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    Not sure on: MobilePhone.co.uk or Phone.co.uk sale amounts, if ever?


    Now with these guides in place.. These offers that i have received for Phablet.co.uk & Phablets.co.uk (both with .UK reg rights) may well be from re-sellers/speculators in the hope that these may have a future potential on them..

    Whatever their plans would be for the domains the offers are helpful indicators.. also noted that selling as a pair or group would increase the overall sale value etc.. as someone would rather have them all and not just one with other competitors about as stated..

    Regardless of the resellers/end-users usage or hopes - if the right offer/s came along for the 4 domains or for a single one, it may well be considered..

    I am not looking at selling these at all but our estate agency portals & domains may well be available for takeover, so that we can then work on opening a physical high street outlet..



    Now before a vast amount of criticism gets posted i am aware that these are all 'Premium' domains and that the current sales market isn't as 'hyped' or 'thriving' as it once was/sometimes is.. but that still doesn't change speculation or potential felt by people submitting offers in their need/desire for a domain/s..

    This is just a general discussion really..

    In addition user: 'James' stated on his £175k sale via the Acorn thread that they "used solicitors acting as stakeholders." So thanks for that i'll most likely be undertaking the same in the coming sale..

    In addition it is amazing seeing that he stated "I bought it about 8 months ago for £49500." sort of mimics the offers/buyers that i have had come forward as possibly being re-sellers too.. trying to buy now while the market it a little cooled off in regards to future resale.

    Also 'James' stated that "The domain was purchased purely on its generic brand value. The buyer was not concerned about traffic at all, although it did receive around 60 uniques daily." which is also very interesting..

    In addition this statement is to try to explain why we may have received a number of high value offers for these property lettings domains?


    (All information has been sourced openly online.)
     
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  12. WalkinDude United Kingdom

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    You should be aiming for min xx,xxx for phablets could be low but should have 5 digits in it. If you put them up for sale on DL your simply handing over the potential profit to another speculator.

    There are loads of avenues for you. I think Phablet is a great domain and the tech is a growing market and who knows if a way will be found to make them more compact with bigger screens. The tech exists just don't know if it's viable yet.

    You got specialists brokers out there. You can contact companies direct. Simply sticking the domains in the subject line of the email is enough with domains of this quality. It's not an email likely to cause offence to anyone in the business of selling these items.

    You got flippa where you can chuck a reserve price on there. And Flippa's top sales have exceeded $1million where as Domainlore never seen anything whatever it is go for more than 3k on there [though stand to be corrected].

    And if you are determined to sell you should convert the home page to sales page. I'd imagine this domain gets some order of traffic.

    You've also got specialist auctions who are renowned for getting great prices. I think jetdomains or something. These brokers/auctions refuse anything that isn't the highest quality so simply contacting them and if they decide your domains fit the bill more or less guarantees you far more than x,xxx.

    But to summarise I think you got quality in the domains and think you need to take them to places that have a track record of delivering the sort of pricing you are interested in and not bother in arena's who aren't really delivering those prices as things stand.


    The market is still alive and kicking it's just smartened up and will continue to do so and filter out the rubbish, obsolete and so on but I think in your case you have cause to be optimistic.
     
  13. ChrisMM United Kingdom

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    That information might be useful if you were selling tablet.co.uk, tablets.co.uk etc. But even then, you have to take into consideration when those domains sold - most likely the height of EMD sales.

    I don't really see see the relevance given Phablet is a brandable.
     
  14. phablet

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    Thank you for your feedback.. Our solicitor states that it is has become and is becoming far more generic than a brandable on a daily basis.. Google just proved this to us moments ago with a quick search.. it is the name attached to all makes of what people class as a 'Phablet'.. Apparently it is almost like and is a new phrase like the one that was once started to be known as 'mobile' for the UK or 'cell' in the US.

    So if the terminology of 'mobile' was fine.. same would go etc
    (mobile wasn't classed as generic and is now such completely, as the correct terminology would still have been a 'phone')

    But we are aiming to take offers on our property lettings portfolio niche sites.
     
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    Haha, so it is! Never heard the term before at all. I just assumed it was a play on words... "fab tablet... fablet... phab...phablet.. etc"
     
  16. phablet

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    It's an easy mistake isn't it, everyone was surprised too.. We are PhabLET & PhabLETS small property portals which do sort of well.. (same as you said.. we based as a 'Phab Let' for 'fabulous let/fabulous lets'), but now people call the devices phablet & phablets! Conundrum! So it has spawned this whole incoming offers scenario..

    Thanks for the reply well appreciated too!
     
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    Thanks for your Comments - Great Help & Very Much Appreciated!

    Are you saying a min xx,xxx for all 4 domains as a whole package? We have an absolute min xx,xxx that would be truly considered if put on the table right now.. So guess that's a good guide.

    Some people have also advised to hold out and wait for the market to change and for the Phablet market to grow further in the hope of reaching xxx,xxx offers. They said it is possible.. The markets do swing in round-a-bouts and exact match domains always look the best and therefore hit a premium for dominance positioning..

    There are still good sales going on online and it's only a matter of time before google gets bored of mass idiotic, endless 'brandable' domains and looks for keyword relevance domains again to escape the mushy waste. I did read it is already happening and shifting back again.. apparently..

    Some people put 'normal' co.uk domains on here and at listed auctions for approx mid x,xxx for a single domain that i would think are slightly 'Premium' one-word domains in many generic niches (such as a place, clothing item or service etc).. If offered as a pack of 4 it is classed as far more premium, as many would simply sell one set of .co.uk + .uk and keep the other half for a longer time view on them for a 2nd sale of which may even grow to become larger valued etc..

    Also given the generic niche that these domains are apparently in and the past pricing of such mobile/phone related single one word domains.. these could be perfect for a new store or company that wants to match them with their current operations etc..

    It's all down to the best offers which would be considered and i am aware that if a reseller offers a price then i know full well that they are looking for some space for them to 'make a profit' so to speak..

    All offers considered regardless of xx,xxx amount and possible auction will take place if not via broker to contact useful end-users..

    Exciting times :rolleyes:
     
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    Can you envisage a problem for a buyer due to the trade mark for Phablet having been registered by a large electronics company?
     
  19. phablet

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    Hi,

    Solicitor has previously stated that the possible trademark can be applied for invalidation as the term has fully become a 'generic term' in addition, the domains where registered before the UK application was submitted therefore domain ownership predates.. such as in the case with Apple and the domain: apple.co.uk as stated on acorn threads..

    Resource:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/trade-marks-revocation

    "You may want to revoke, or partly revoke, the registration of a trade mark, for other reasons than non-use. Either:"

    "the trade mark has become ‘generic’ which means the it as become the common name in the trade for goods or services for which it is registered"


    A google search proves that this is the case as even Microsoft and Samsung advertise their devices as a 'Phablet' even with the wording used in their Google ppc adverts. Every manufacturer is using the term therefore appears extremely Generic.

    Phablet.co.uk & Phablets.co.uk whois reg dates:
    Registered on: 04-Sep-2011

    Plus these domains are in the property niche..


    Wiki is proving that the term/terms are far too Generic now too:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phablet

    Every manufacturer is listed.

    A buyer does not have to convert our real estate property portals to any other niche.. We stated that we considered offers from approx 5 buyers now whom may be looking to use these for other reasons, hence the higher offers submitted for the group of 4 domains etc..

    The usage would be the buyers decision, But the Generic opportunity is fully proved, there and completely present. These domain brokers know this too i assume hence why they see the potential..
     
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    6 Offers now received.

    2 offers of £x,xxx
    4 offers of £xx,xxx

    All further offers over £xx,xxx please. Thanks all & very much appreciated!

    Brokers commission will be paid via agreed % commission on sale total amount.

    PM or email further offers in private.

    This is Now the Perfect Opportunity for a One Word Domain. Why settle for a two worded domain when they are far too long for customers to type.

    ONE OFF Opportunity & Thank you for all of the interest!
     
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