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September .uk drop discussion

Discussion in 'Drop catching Domain Names' started by Murray, Sep 3, 2020.

  1. webber

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    Agree. They have full access to the database and logs, full history of the changes, full control. Asking members to do their job si pathetic
     
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  2. Domain Forum

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    articles.co.uk
     
  3. Murray

    Murray Well-Known Member

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  4. LCHappy United Kingdom

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    Excellent news
     
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  5. DomainMagic

    DomainMagic Active Member Acorn Supporter

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    We only have until 1pm tomorrow before the voting closes. I have also contacted the voting support email address to ask to have my vote reset but am unsure if it will be done in time now.
     
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  6. Ben Thomas

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    According to @gregfindley post, Nominet said: "As we understand it, an error in Fasthosts’ automated systems led to a small number of domains at the very end of the expiry period being renewed without the registrant's consent"

    But according to The Register's article, Fasthosts have claimed "human error"

    So which is it?

    If I make a mistake I may make it once, or twice. Not 38(?) times ...
     
  7. Gill United Kingdom

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    You meet a special type of person in this game so it's not surprising that "Being nice" fell at the first hurdle.

    What do you ladies think would be a fitting punishment for @Siusaidh? Flogging, excommunication, imprisonment, hounded to self harm?

    I hate cowards that hunt in packs.
     
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  8. Ben Thomas

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    Ooh, how cryptic.
     
  9. dropped.uk

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    Monitoring this, but mix.uk is on the move...

    LIVEDOMAINS > YAYYAY > NAMECHEAP-INC

    mix_on_the_move.png
     
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  10. bensd United Kingdom

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    I purchased the .co.uk and .uk pair from the seller today after a few weeks of negotiations.

    I completed the nominet transfer (and received their confirmation email) but when I tried to add the domains to my chosen registrar (Yay), I noticed that the transfer said pending registry approval and checking the Whois it now says NameCheap.

    I will be calling Nominet in the morning to find out what happened.

     
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  11. Murray

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    Who is the victim: the people that had their domains hijacked or the people scorned for doing it?

    I would like to think if the registrars involved were fully transparent and said they were naive to have participated people would have said fair enough and left it there (in regards to personal criticism)

    It's the misleading info posted and the "I have done nothing wrong" attitudes that invite further scrutiny and criticism

    Of course in Sussanahs particular case running for a position at Nominet puts you in more of a spotlight
     
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  12. Ben Thomas

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    Yes, but people were actively participating in a thread discussing the "loophole". The very same people who then decided to steal domain names. It's inexcusable to be fair. But Fasthosts should be held accountable. If it was indeed human error, then the apprentice needs to be sacked.
     
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  13. bensd United Kingdom

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    @dropped.uk I received an email from nominet at 21:06 yesterday confirming they had completed the transfer. Does your system show a time when the TAG was changed to Namecheap?

     
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  14. Gill United Kingdom

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    Don't be so melodramatic, the people you're talking about cared so much they

    a) Didn't take up rights during the RoR
    b) Chose not to renew the domains that someone had registered for free on their behalf

    You're just a bunch of busy bodies sticking your noses into something that's none of your business. Worse still you found yourselves a useful punch bag and like the cowards you are, you're not just content to stick the knife in, you're twisting it as well.
     
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  15. Gill United Kingdom

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  16. Murray

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    Sorry If I'm short here I'm just tired of saying the same things over and over

    A registrant either has anywhere up until cancellation to renew (as is in the t&c) or they have nothing

    A registration can't depend on some random person outside opinion on whether the registrant wants the domain or not

    What's happened breaks the whole system, it breaks any trust you can have in the .uk namespace, it makes domains unusable

    You have up until cancellation or you have nothing
     
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  17. Trauiner United Kingdom

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    If they cared or not is irrelevant. The domain owners had rights and the people that participated in this, tried taking someone elses rights away.

    Something tells me you participated in this loophole or your 'friends' did. You seem quite annoyed that people aren't getting away with stealing domains.
     
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  18. Gill United Kingdom

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    You can try all you want to build this into a soap opera but the facts are that it involves a tiny number of names registered to people who hadn't bothered to renew them and most importantly has nothing whatsoever to do with you or anyone else on this forum.
     
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  19. dropped.uk

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    I don't have the exact time, but the tag change from YAYYAY to NAMECHEAP-INC was roughly between 21:45 and 22:30.
     
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  20. Murray

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    You have until cancellation to renew, the only time you can say a registrant didn't bother to renew is when the domain is cancelled by the registry and no time before

    It's much bigger than individual names (albeit taking just one is bad enough) you're arguing contracts aren't important? that's not a trivial thing
     
  21. super-whois United Kingdom

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    Surely by your argument, the fact that they weren't renewed was none of your business? Or are you being a hypocrite?
     
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