Scam The London Office for Verifications and Registrations

[Coder]

Coder, IN WRITING by RECORDED DELIVERY and cc: The Chief Constable of your county.

Never thought of that, Cheers!
I've already sent info to the Met Police (Fraud Alert).
http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/

Nominet gave me that link.

 

[aZooZa]

Never thought of that, Cheers!
I've already sent info to the Met Police (Fraud Alert).
http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/

Nominet gave me that link.

Coder, precisely: Write a letter to your bank and make sure in that letter you write e.g. "cc: CC Devon & Cornwall Contabulary" -- (CC = Chief Constable) and then sit back and wait while the bank becomes an 'Imodium' customer and refunds you double-quick. Make sure you send the cc: to The CC but that probably won't make it past desk sergeant. However, this will work.

 

[Coder]

Coder, precisely: Write a letter to your bank and make sure in that letter you write e.g. "cc: CC Devon & Cornwall Contabulary" -- (CC = Chief Constable) and then sit back and wait while the bank becomes an 'Imodium' customer and refunds you double-quick. Make sure you send the cc: to The CC but that probably won't make it past desk sergeant. However, this will work.

Thanks for that! I'll send that off tomorrow!
Have you heard of this being successful before with banks?

 

[olebean]

Coder

I'll be sending that info tomorrow.. There are some questionmarks over their historical reporting of companies within "the circle"

 

[aZooZa]

Thanks for that! I'll send that off tomorrow!
Have you heard of this being successful before with banks?

Coder, just so you understand: You have to send off two letters by recorded delivery: One to the bank, cc: Chief Constable, and one to the Chief Constable, cc: your bank. Oh yeah - it will work.

 

[Coder]

Coder

I'll be sending that info tomorrow.. There are some questionmarks over their historical reporting of companies within "the circle"

Ok, cheers olebean!

 

[Coder]

Coder, just so you understand: You have to send off two letters by recorded delivery: One to the bank, cc: Chief Constable, and one to the Chief Constable, cc: your bank. Oh yeah - it will work.

Yeah I'll do that and post up how I get on!

 

[aZooZa]

Yeah I'll do that and post up how I get on!

PM me and I'll draft them for you if you like.

 

[GWing]

One thing I would say to anyone trying to get a charge back through their card company, if it's a bit dodgy and you think you their is a chance you might not get your money back. Report it as a fraudulent charge and you know zip all about it. Don't give the bank any details or tips, just say you know nothing.

That way your bank will just give you the money back and not bother arguing, they'll then charge the merchant for the privallege by by taking the money from them and charging the merchant £10 penalty.

 

[Coder]

One thing I would say to anyone trying to get a charge back through their card company, if it's a bit dodgy and you think you their is a chance you might not get your money back. Report it as a fraudulent charge and you know zip all about it. Don't give the bank any details or tips, just say you know nothing.

That way your bank will just give you the money back and not bother arguing, they'll then charge the merchant for the privallege by by taking the money from them and charging the merchant £10 penalty.

But www.loovar.co.uk could say look we registered his domains for him! Who would fraudently use my card for that? Other than making it look like they were doing it themselves to generate so called business. I suppose they are in effect doing just that!!

 

[Jeewhizz]

charging the merchant £10 penalty.

And a bit more - depending on the merchant account, it can be over £50...

 

[GWing]

But www.loovar.co.uk could say look we registered his domains for him! Who would fraudently use my card for that? Other than making it look like they were doing it themselves to generate so called business. I suppose they are in effect doing just that!!

It doesn't always need to be fraudulent mate, if visa or mastercard have excessive queries, attempted chargebacks or complaints about a merchant they are allowed in their terms and conditions to suspend the account and hold your money in a suspense account for upto 6 months.

And a bit more - depending on the merchant account, it can be over £50...

fair does, mine is the £10 but not in a high fraud area such as sex sites or gambling which I imagine would be pretty high. I've been extremely lucky. Turned over £80,000 in last 2 years and not one chargeback or query from a customer.

 

[Leanne]

Sucked in as well by LOOVAR -is it too late?

Unfortunately, LOOVAR have managed to con my friend also. They rang up with the same lines as other people have heard, and my riding school friend paid up. They are a business and are having trouble getting money back. I have tried to contact LOOVAR, but get no reponse - do they even provide a service? they have been purchasing their domains through FastHosts, and selling them on with a massive markup. I dont really know what to do next? is there any way of transferring the domain without having contact with LOOVAR?

 

[grantw]

Did they set you up an account with fasthosts so you can administer the domain name or is it locked in their own account (in your name)?

If you dont have access to it then you can get it out of there via Nominet for £10+vat:

http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrants/maintain/changeregistrar/

Grant

 

[Leanne]

It is locked in a Loovar account with FastHosts. I have spoke to Fast Hosts and they cannot unlock without Loovars permission.

I cannot see any way of administering the site through LOOVAR? would this be done via FastHosts?

If Nominet unlock the account is there any possible way of getting some money back?

Thanks for your help

 

[keys]

click the following link, then replace xxx.co.uk with the domain name, in your browser address bar

http://webwhois.nic.uk/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=xxx.co.uk


if your friend is the Registrant then he/she can take control of the domain, via a request to Nominet

 

[Leanne]

Thank you for your response. Will have a look and contact Nominet

 

[Coder]

Hi Leanne, sorry to hear they conned your friend too!
You might like to ask him/her to inform Trading standards http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/ about it. They are already aware of this company and the more people that complain, the better chance of them taking action.

Coder
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[EdPhillips]

This website:
http://www.domainscams.co.uk/domain...Office-of-Verifications-and-Registrations.php

... suggests that Loovar is linked to other companies based in Swansea. This would be consistent with previous scams - see the Nominet website:
http://www.nic.uk/disputes/legalinfo/scams/

Therefore I would recommend sending complaints to Swansea Trading Standards, rather than just generally. One of the things that assists internet scams is that victims are spread evenly around the country, so each trading standards department receives a small number of complaints about a subject they don't understand and nothing happens. If this is being run by Swansea Trading Standards, they certainly *do* understand the issues by now, and have put a lot of effort in the past into dealing with these people.

 

[Coder]

This website:
http://www.domainscams.co.uk/domain...Office-of-Verifications-and-Registrations.php

... suggests that Loovar is linked to other companies based in Swansea. This would be consistent with previous scams - see the Nominet website:
http://www.nic.uk/disputes/legalinfo/scams/

Therefore I would recommend sending complaints to Swansea Trading Standards, rather than just generally. One of the things that assists internet scams is that victims are spread evenly around the country, so each trading standards department receives a small number of complaints about a subject they don't understand and nothing happens. If this is being run by Swansea Trading Standards, they certainly *do* understand the issues by now, and have put a lot of effort in the past into dealing with these people.

Very true Ed,

I'll let them know!

Cheers!