Three letter .uk's

[philliph]

Hi all

Just a thought, I have about 30 3 letter .co.uks in my portfolio at the moment, is it worth getting the .uk equivalents? as in are they likely to have much of a re-sale value?

thanks

 

[Retired_Member38]

You've got 5 years, why not just wait and see if anyone wants them ? Presumably anyone clued up enough to be interested in buying, will know they can do so via contacting the .co.uk owner

 

[ian]

Agreed, most on here I would suggest haven't bothered with the .uk's yet, there is little point unless you are developing and as Monkey said, those that know about .uk will know to contact the .co.uk owner. Might as well wait, see what happens.

 

[martin-s]

I think the only real benefit is that you'd be able to list them on Sedo separately. Might be worth it for 3LDs if you've only got a small number I reckon.

 

[Dr Harnak Rayat]

Its a great idea

it may be advantageous in the long term to own both with an early registration date. best wishes

 

[scooter]

I'm not being cheeky here or disrespectful.

I know you own carinsurance.co.uk. You have owned it for 18 years and here it still resides on what looks like what my first attempt at building a site looked like way back in 1999

I ask in all sincerity, what are you doing???
Why have you not sold or partnered with someone/a company long time ago?

You should be making a living out of this name and have done so for many years.

I do not understand. Why have you not (at minimum) paid someone to pull in feeds and make it like a "compare the market" site


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[Retired_Member38]

I'm not being cheeky here or disrespectful.

I know you own carinsurance.co.uk. You have owned it for 18 years and here it still resides on what looks like what my first attempt at building a site looked like way back in 1999

I ask in all sincerity, what are you doing???
Why have you not sold or partnered with someone/a company long time ago?

You should be making a living out of this name and have done so for many years.

I do not understand. Why have you not (at minimum) paid someone to pull in feeds and make it like a "compare the market" site


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The ship has long sailed on that one. Exact match benefit has been pretty much wiped out. It still exists but is nowhere near what it was a couple of years ago. And probably more importantly, Google is now massively favouring brands in the search results, especially for hugely commercial phrases like this one.

This domain could and should have made the owner a multi millionaire... stubbornness and a variety of other factors have meant it didn't happen, and can now never happen.

 

[deluxedomains]

I finished a deal for a three letter yday and checked the.UK was included.better as a pair but that's just my opinion.

 

[thudufushi]

The ship has long sailed on that one. Exact match benefit has been pretty much wiped out. It still exists but is nowhere near what it was a couple of years ago. And probably more importantly, Google is now massively favouring brands in the search results, especially for hugely commercial phrases like this one.

This domain could and should have made the owner a multi millionaire... stubbornness and a variety of other factors have meant it didn't happen, and can now never happen.

Hi Monkey,

I don't know what you base this assertion on but i have to disagree with you. I am an SEO expert and check rankings on google.co.uk constantly across many sectors and despite googles claims to have knocked down the weighting given to keyword domains I have seen the opposite in the last year. Keyword domains are doing better than they have ever done along with the household brands, its many companies in the middle who have fallen away. Low grade sites with poor seo credentials and a good keyword domain often find themselves on page 1 ahead of more worthy sites.

 

[bonusmedia]

Are we going to have another 20 page argument about this?
If so perhaps start another thread?

Phil, as of now there is no apparent benefit of an aged domain unless it has been developed. I've regged a few on my more important domains just in case that ever changes again.

Some people (including potential buyers) still believe there is, so it could be worth regging for those cases.

BTW thanks for the tip on 3Degrees, they're doing some good stuff for me.
I reckon you should claim a referral fee

 

[Murray]

I am an SEO expert

Is that title earned or self given

check rankings on google.co.uk constantly across many sectors and despite googles claims to have knocked down the weighting given to keyword domains I have seen the opposite in the last year.

Would be interesting to see the data you've collected put into some kind of chart/graph? if that's possible, thanks.

 

[thudufushi]

Is that title earned or self given



Would be interesting to see the data you've collected put into some kind of chart/graph? if that's possible, thanks.

Yes I'm well aware many people award themselves that title and few can back it up. In my case, I can ... so thanks for asking. My company has been selling my SEO services very successfully for the last 8 years... so thanks for asking .

 

[ian]

My company has been selling my SEO services very successfully for the last 8 years... so thanks for asking .

Then I doubt they'll like you saying this:

Low grade sites with poor seo credentials and a good keyword domain often find themselves on page 1 ahead of more worthy sites.

So basically SEO offers no gains in search results and you might as well just buy a keyword rich domain name?

SEO is often over complicated to charge large sums of money. Rules are simple, launch a site on a good reliable server, brand where possible, ensure lots of unique content, tag links and images, keep code relatively clean and allow plenty of time.

 

[Murray]

The only info I have to go on is Mozcast, I don't monitor many niches or have a lot of sites myself

You can see in 2012 what things looked like for EMDs and PMDs on Mozacast from this post

http://www.searchenginepeople.com/blog/emd-update-minor.html

Then if you look at now they're quite a bit lower still

http://mozcast.com/metrics

So based just on that I would say their influence has diminished

I will say though that I do think EMDs still have a benefit, but probably not in the big/competitive niches Monkey likes to work in.

 

[thudufushi]

Then I doubt they'll like you saying this:



So basically SEO offers no gains in search results and you might as well just buy a keyword rich domain name?

SEO is often over complicated to charge large sums of money. Rules are simple, launch a site on a good reliable server, brand where possible, ensure lots of unique content, tag links and images, keep code relatively clean and allow plenty of time.

Indeed they wouldn't, but nevertheless sometimes I have to say it, it's the truth, in SOME CASES. You are massively over simplifying. Of course, you scenario is excluding every client I work for, that is, a company with a web presence already in place which then brings into the equation dealing with badly coded sites, fixing site structure, improving content, setting canonicals, removing content from G's index, undoing bad SEO done by a previous provider, disavowing backlinks and encouraging new healthy backlinks.

 

[ian]

Indeed they wouldn't, but nevertheless sometimes I have to say it, it's the truth, in SOME CASES. You are massively over simplifying. Of course, you scenario is excluding every client I work for, that is, a company with a web presence already in place which then brings into the equation dealing with badly coded sites, fixing site structure, improving content, setting canonicals, removing content from G's index, undoing bad SEO done by a previous provider, disavowing backlinks and encouraging new healthy backlinks.

Oh I agree with that, some sites require a lot of work to put them right and improve their organic positioning. I merely point out that starting from scratch, a small amount of research will discover that if you do it right from the start, it doesn't have to be complicated, nor require the services of a SEO expert

 

[bonusmedia]

A quality site with a quality exact match will still beat one without.
Google's change was designed to hit the low quality stuff and the stuff relying on the EMD alone, and it was a good thing.

I'm a big fan of Ronseal sites, a good exact match is also a good brand.

If anything hitting the low quality EMDs improves the situation for quality EMDs, because it increases user trust.

Niches like payday were so spammy that Google took manual control and car insurance has more huge well established brands than anything else so it was never going to be easy to beat them.