.UK Announced

[DomainManagement]

it does look like some stupid public school dare to me ,

we listend at the meeting and asked why they could not email everyone

data protection and spam we were told / and then we asked later about

how are they going to inform everyone of the auctions etc etc answer =

email , then we asked , what about concerns relating to data protection and spam hmmm the room went quite

it is a real joke

do as i say and not as i do , rings a bell here its called hypocrisy

 

[Lovekraft]

however i think there are to scared to disagree with there chief exec, after all look how there chief exec , has treated previous member's of her team , i mean who would really try too raise the .uk after i find it has already been discussed many times and always been rejected
what idiot would try to implement such a thing when the country is in its worst state for a long long time

I do believe that this there is no real thought being given to the UK public and this has not really been designed for the publics benefit at all.

I also agree and believe this is mostly about riasing short term funds to fulfill a few bonus cheques for a select few individuals within Nominet, while the staff under their rule have to grin and bear it or face losing their jobs.

They are happy to shaft the nation over for their own selfish benefit and throw all rational responsiblity out the window. They don't care if it messes the whole uk internet / domain system up (in fact evidently they haven't given it much thought). They will run off with their fortune just in time and leave someone else to pick up the mess no doubt. Happens in so many different industries, Nominet are basically going down the route our bankers took us which is no help at all to our struggling economy.

I've tried to see the plus side about this. There is only one, it would take 2 seconds less to type a URL. That's it! The several downsides that accompany this have been well pointed out by you guys far outweigh this one minor benefit.

 

[anthony]

She can't be far off being a .uk millionaire as things stand today anyway. Not bad if you can get it!

 

[DomainManagement]

well done Graham his site`s and vids are back up

prediction number 1 correct

i like what lovecraft had to say so true there hollowing out the nation

making there own life rafts , at our expense , like american corps do

 

[Stephen]

Manchester roundtable

Well i must say the Manchester round table meeting , was a much more
interesting meeting to attend , parts of senior management we in attendance answered to there best of there abilities questions
actually listened and were open to points of discussion , regarding
objections , and potential problems ,
i was impressed with there how competent there were and also a passion for internet , i feel they have being wrongly directed and are just doing there jobs , this team can run NOMINET and make us all proud , however i think there are to scared to disagree with there chief exec, after all look how there chief exec , has treated previous member's of her team , i mean who would really try too raise the .uk after i find it has already been discussed many times and always been rejected
........

Anybody at Manchester event, would they say their was voices for support of the .uk and speaking up for it and giving any arguments why it should be introduced or defending the many points made against it?

On several occasions I have had feedback from Nominet who somehow believe that there is still support for .uk at these meetings!

Unfortunately Nominet will not publish details of the meetings so we will never have any evidence of what actually happened.

 

[GreyWing]

Anybody at Manchester event, would they say their was voices for support of the .uk and speaking up for it and giving any arguments why it should be introduced or defending the many points made against it?

On several occasions I have had feedback from Nominet who somehow believe that there is still support for .uk at these meetings!

Unfortunately Nominet will not publish details of the meetings so we will never have any evidence of what actually happened.

A few at Manchester wanted it to happen when it started, they left with zero wanting it to go ahead in its current form. There was only 5 of us though.

Nominet can't ever square how they can't tell people about the consultation but can tell them about their rights to go to auction. If one is a spam issue they both are.... they couldn't answer me on that.

But we all know the slippery lawyers will come up with something to justify emailing 10 million domains holders about applying and going to auction.

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Cheers Steve site is now back up and staying up, firmly placed in the new data centre.

 

[websaway]

Dear Nominet

I am an employed plumber starting my own business and going self employed .
I want to start a website and am going to buy a .uk domain name.
Do I also need to buy the co.uk version of the name ?

Yours gratefully in anticipation

 

[foz]

Dear Nominet

I am an employed plumber starting my own business and going self employed .
I want to start a website and am going to buy a .uk domain name.
Do I also need to buy the co.uk version of the name ?

Yours gratefully in anticipation

Dear Sir/Madam,

You should be able to secure plumber.uk for £20.

As .co.uk is not a secure extension, that will not be necessary.

 

[Stephen]

What they do next?

A few at Manchester wanted it to happen when it started, they left with zero wanting it to go ahead in its current form. There was only 5 of us though.....

It seems as if Nominet are taking that pople state don't want .uk in current format as proposed, as a license to change a few bits
and then go ahead and say we listened and there is no need to have more consultation as we adjusted for the last one!

They are not supplying the evidence that it is required and certainly not answering questions about the consequences
that will follow if they go ahead even with adjustments.

.uk should not be allowed in any format without further debate outside Nominet and a chance to engage a wider audience.

 

[GreyWing]

It seems as if Nominet are taking that pople state don't want .uk in current format as proposed, as a license to change a few bits and then go ahead and say we listened and there is no need to have more consultation as we adjusted for the last one!

They are not supplying the evidence that it is required and certainly not answering questions about the consequences that will follow if they go ahead even with adjustments.

.uk should not be allowed in any format without further debate outside Nominet and a chance to engage a wider audience.

One of them did state that if changed, he didn't see how it could go ahead without a new consultation.

Plus there is protection from this in law, I don't want to state what it is because Nominet's lawyers will try to get round it and say they have accounted for that whilst like the EU barrier to trade issue, I think not even having the brains to think of something so important whilst proposing something that is illegal.

But there is protection from them doing that... I will drop you an e-mail latter on about it. I am a just reluctant to do that in public at the moment

 

[Stephen]

No hidding place

...But there is protection from them doing that... I will drop you an e-mail latter on about it. I am a just reluctant to do that in public at the moment

Thanks.

All 30 pages of my document "What is wrong with the Nominet .uk proposal?" has finally been delivered to all the Nominet board members.

I'm not sure what the Nominet Board have been told by the exective so far about the arguments about the .uk proposal and the way it has been handled and its content deficiencies. If you look at the minutes of the Board they could always say their wishes have not been carried out fully by the exectuitive and we were not told about possible outcomes of the proposal even if it is adjusted.

Not anymore.

 

[GreyWing]

That is the right attitude mate.... make them aware of everything in writing. Although the Baroness Fritchie Lady (Nominet Chair) denies receiving two emails from me and another regarding the conduct of Ms Cowley. Even though we sent it to her Parliament address.

I recently had a conversation with one of the non-executive directors from Nominet, there was someone stood right next to me who can verify this.

We were talking about the Lesley Cowley videos, the NED said that they were unhappy because it was a personal attack and that they weren't into that kind of stuff. I asked him what he was going to do about the allegations in it as they were accurate...

The NED turned to me and said... I haven't seen any videos....

lol

 

[websaway]

July 2013

Dear Nominet

Having registered my domain ajplumbingservices.uk and ajplumbingservices.co.uk I am advised that in order to protect my brand further I need to register the sub domains ajplumbingservices.sc.uk (Scotland) and ajplumbingservices.wa.uk (wales) as well as ajplumbingservices.ci.uk (channel Islands)

Please advise

sincerely

 

[Stephen]

Department of Culture, Media and Sport contact?

I was supplied with an email contact at the Department of Culture, Media and Sport contact
the Governement department that overseas (sponsers) Nominet, by Nominet to
send my document "What is wrong with the Nominet .uk proposal?" last week.

As a precaution I emailed them again today (thankfully) and received this response.

I have now left DCMS to go on secondment - your email will not be read. Please contact:

[email protected] for internet issues and
[email protected] for telecoms issues

thank you,

Fiona Murray

Has anybody had dealings with that department, so I can get to somebody
who knows what is going on at Nominet?

 

[Brassneck]

I was supplied with an email contact at the Department of Culture, Media and Sport contact
the Governement department that overseas (sponsers) Nominet, by Nominet to
send my document "What is wrong with the Nominet .uk proposal?" last week.

As a precaution I emailed them again today (thankfully) and received this response.



Has anybody had dealings with that department, so I can get to somebody
who knows what is going on at Nominet?

Why don't you phone them up. Probably the most effective way of finding out who you need to deal with.

 

[Pellam123]

pffft

loss of continuity, keep moving the target/objection and making sure and tick all the boxes as they steam roller their way to reaching the conclusion that best represents their commercial interests... I sense a familiar jaded framework slowly grinding into position. very poor...

Unless I'm mistaken of course...

Still don't understand how Britain's global online commercial interests (worth billions) are being represented by some woman with an undistinguished commercial background and a video recording where she is accused of misleading a British court. Almost on a par with putting a mortgage fraudster like Lord Peter Mandelson (twice discharged as an MP) in control of our European business interests. Yeah it's depressing!

 

[WealdDomains]

A quick Google on DCMS contacts led me to http://ukigf.org.uk/ : "The UK Internet Governance Forum is a collaborative partnership between Nominet, the UK Department for Culture, Media & Sport, key parliamentarians and other organisations taking a leading role in making the internet a better place. Its aim is to provide a local forum in the UK that engages industry, government, parliament, academia and civil society in debate on Internet Governance issues. As well as encouraging partnerships and coalitions that deliver solutions and demonstrate best practice for others to learn from. Other influential stakeholder groups that are taking part include the London Internet Exchange, the Children’s Charities Coalition for Internet Safety, The Internet Watch Foundation, Raceonline 2012 and Childnet."

As far as I can see, there is no mention of the current direct .uk consultation exercise at that website, including the blog.

 

[WealdDomains]

I just had a quick glance at the 2011 Nominet report at http://www.nominet.org.uk/sites/default/files/nominet_report_and_accounts_2011.pdf and was surprised and confused to see this progress report on DNSSEC in Lesley Cowley's Chief Executive's statement :

"During 2011, our continuing work to secure the Domain Name System itself made significant advances. We successfully implemented DNSSEC (secure extensions for DNS) with .uk being signed in March followed by our second level domains (.co.uk, .org.uk etc) in May. DNSSEC prevents the interception and tampering with DNS queries between nameservers, which, in turn, prevents the faking of websites, and ultimately makes the Internet safer. We will continue working with other global registries to encourage take up of DNSSEC amongst registrars, ISPs and the wider Internet community."

So, the technical signing of .co.uk and .org.uk has already happened and it now becomes a commercial issue of deployment. The technical signing feels like an activity for a not-for-profit organisation. The commercial deployment doesn't. Or am I missing something ?

 

[Stephen]

ukigf.org.uk

A quick Google on DCMS contacts led me to http://ukigf.org.uk/ : "The UK Internet Governance Forum is a collaborative partnership between Nominet, the UK Department for Culture, Media & Sport, key parliamentarians and other organisations taking a leading role in making the internet a better place. ....As far as I can see, there is no mention of the current direct .uk consultation exercise at that website, including the blog.

Thanks, I have sent them an email trying to get the committee to take notice of the Nominet .uk proposal and the 30 page document "What is wrong with the Nominet .uk proposal?"

 

[WealdDomains]

The 2011 Nominet report at http://www.nominet.org.uk/sites/default/files/nominet_report_and_accounts_2011.pdf looks quite interesting as an official published reference source for the strategy, operation and governance of Nominet.

Another quick glance finds that page 28 (page 30 of the PDF) refers to the Corporate Risk Register.

From that, I naturally assume that the launch of the direct .uk consultation a couple of months ago would have been actively considered and contemporaneously recorded under appropriate entries for topics such as Reputational, Economic and Market Risk, since the uncertainty engendered for .co.uk etc by the consultation would clearly, in itself, be worthy of recording regardless of the eventual outcome.

If the consultation was not recorded in that register prior to or at the point of launch, that would suggest that Nominet's formal documented corporate risk governance model is not being followed.