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.UK Announced

'Tickets' Class 04: Scented candles

Whats the fuss about?





There are live word only TM's held by:

Kinetic Solutions Ltd
Akara Building, 24 De Castro Street, Wickhams Cay 1, Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands

For the following words:

Tickets
Condos
Doctor
Forex
Games
Hotel
Hotels
Kids
Lawyer
Lawyers
Pharmacy
Auto
Autos
Business
College
Condo
Chat
Credit
CreditReport
CPA
Dating
Debt
Dictionary
Diets
Email
Forum
Furniture
Insurance
Loan
Loans
Lottery
Mortgage
News
RealEstate
Refinance
Rent
Diet
Find
Money
Movie
Movies
Pets
Search
Weather
Anime
Camera
cameras
Degree
Degrees
Download
Law
Poker
Review
Reviews
Bank
Blog


Here is the link to IPO for Tickets TM

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2509483

Click the link near the bottom "Other cases owned by this proprietor"




Take mortgage.co.uk as an example.
The name currently does not appear to be in "proper" use, which means the registrant has no right to mortgage.uk and the TM holder does.

What a mess !


That is just the tip of the iceberg !
 
"Tickets" By three and a half years?

Why apply for lots of UK TM in the 'scented candles' category at the cost of £300 each if you didn't have something to gain from it ?

Not saying it is the .uk domains, but a bit fishy regardless.....
 
The presence of condo, condos and real estate on that list of TMs suggests that it's a North American entity behind the offshore company cloak of "Kinetic Solutions Ltd".
 
My thoughts EXACTLY !!!!

This stinks !!


multiple trademarkers & multiple uk company registrants

who speculatively register things in the hope of selling them on for big profits

or is that domainers.

Anyway it doesn't matter. All are trying to make money in a capitalist free market system and as long as they act within the law it's OK.

But you should not be able to sell the same thing twice, the first purchaser is the rightful owner.
If you bought a co.uk domain and thought you owned that name webspace for business/commercial uk use, you didn't, it was merely a ticket for a future prize draw.
Sounds a bit Nigerian to me.
 
Why apply for lots of UK TM in the 'scented candles' category at the cost of £300 each if you didn't have something to gain from it ?

Not saying it is the .uk domains, but a bit fishy regardless.....
Maybe they had a crystal ball or perhaps a little bit of inside information what was on the horizon...
 
I recently applied for a TM and was turned down because the word was a generic term. I was told by the IP expert that it would always be a persons right to use that word and express it on a t-shirt or website etc. The only protection I had was in the actual brand logo with the generic word in question used together.

If I wanted it tm a word, seems it had to be a 'facebook' type job.

Seems like a lot of flappign going on here over nothing?
 
I remember speaking to someone years ago about the pro's and con's of buying dot com's versus co dot uk's

He said "you are buying a sub domain in co.uk but the dot com is the real thing"
how right he was.
 
multiple trademarkers & multiple uk company registrants

who speculatively register things in the hope of selling them on for big profits

or is that domainers.

Anyway it doesn't matter. All are trying to make money in a capitalist free market system and as long as they act within the law it's OK.

But you should not be able to sell the same thing twice, the first purchaser is the rightful owner.
If you bought a co.uk domain and thought you owned that name webspace for business/commercial uk use, you didn't, it was merely a ticket for a future prize draw.
Sounds a bit Nigerian to me.

Very true - I was thinking too much of the 'insider knowledge of .uk domains' and wrote that in haste in all honesty.
 
Why apply for lots of UK TM in the 'scented candles' category at the cost of £300 each if you didn't have something to gain from it ?

Not saying it is the .uk domains, but a bit fishy regardless.....

Anyone could take a punt on the hopes of it coming in handy, I don't think its insider information.
 
Anyone could take a punt on the hopes of it coming in handy, I don't think its insider information.

You are probably right Garth

*edited as no point in turning this into a conspiracy theory etc - rather keep it on topic*
 
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I love the timing of this...many domainers are really struggling to move stock then having to contend with Google Panda/Penguin updates knocking decent sites...I would love to know the brainchild behind this latest idea, maybe we should ask the Government to put the registry to Tender ? are Nominet trustworthy of running the UK Domain Registry ? there are not exactly squeeky clean are they with there history !!!
 
maybe we should ask the Government to put the registry to Tender ?

You really don't want that! With the digital economy act ,the goverment has the power to take over Nominet if they wish (I believe). That's why I think this is such a poor move. It's flagging up the need for stronger governance.
 
Would you be happy for entities that took the above cited kind of punts with trade mark registrations finding themselves above existing registrants in the pecking order?

It just demonstrates how erroneous the pecking order is. I would imagine their are more Marks at IPO UK that are of the same vein.
 
Well thats a very interesting "Approved" Trademark list posted for the class for "Scented Candles"

It's hard to believe this .UK launch proposal is only a few days old. The fun and games that are going to develop over the next months is going to be pretty amazing to watch and hopefully participate in

I have to say I'm getting quite enthralled by the whole scenario getting played-out - Mind you I do lead quite a boring life, so it adds to my entertainment for the coming winter months
 
I've lost a couple of grands worth of deals this week on the back of people panicking about it. All very silly and frustrating!
 
I've lost a couple of grands worth of deals this week on the back of people panicking about it. All very silly and frustrating!

Indeed - my comment above was from a spectators view at a sports match. It does impact on me to a certain extent. My beer money has dried-up but at the same-time I don't wish to make light of the genuine hardships this may indeed cause many
 
Really ? so what happened martin they all back out ?

all the companys that i have spoken to are not bothered about the .UK and they wont be bothering with securing the .UK extension if this happens

Also by looking at some business forums they all dont seem to care about the fuss of .UK


I've lost a couple of grands worth of deals this week on the back of people panicking about it. All very silly and frustrating!
 
Really ? so what happened martin they all back out ?

all the companys that i have spoken to are not bothered about the .UK and they wont be bothering with securing the .UK extension if this happens

Also by looking at some business forums they all dont seem to care about the fuss of .UK

I think I agree with Sam if you are targeting the small business end of the market then I am not sure this is going to end up that much difference.

I do think, however, that reseller sales are going to struggle over the next months until some clarity exists. By which time, I think we are going to see less catches, less speculatative registrations and less renewals. All of which will probably see the UK register begin to shrink (renewal rates already at lowest they have been) and Nominet's revenue drop.

Stephen.
 
As usual it's just a case of misinformation causing confusion. Both of them thought that it was already a done deal and .co.uk's were now second rate.

They didn't understand a) what was happening now, b) what might happen next, c) what that might mean and d) how they should adapt their plans in the meantime.

Annoying when deals are agreed and invoices raised, but I feel some sympathy for them.

For people who have heard about it, it is obviously going to take a while for the truth/reality to sink in. I.e. that for most domains, owning the .co.uk will most likely give you an advantage on securing the .uk *if* and when it happens.

Ah well.
 

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