.UK Announced

[righthand]

The presence of condo, condos and real estate on that list of TMs suggests that it's a North American entity behind the offshore company cloak of "Kinetic Solutions Ltd".

This mob could just as easily have an eye on new TLDs in general, but will probably pilfer many of the top .uk's if permitted.

It is the top generics where most of the TM cheating will take place, so for these domains at least, Nominet is going to have to give the highest priority to existing .uk owners who show evidence of use, or take some other very strong steps to deter abuse. It is absolutely inconceivable that some TM cheat will be allowed to get away with claiming my generic.

 

[Bailey]

Has anybody read anything in the Business-press (not blog-posts or domainer circle stuff) I'd really appreciate some links if there are any out there

 

[Bailey]

This mob could just as easily have an eye on new TLDs in general, but will probably pilfer many of the top .uk's if permitted.

It is the top generics where most of the TM cheating will take place, so for these domains at least, Nominet is going to have to give the highest priority to existing .uk owners who show evidence of use, or take some other very strong steps to deter abuse. It is absolutely inconceivable that some TM cheat will be allowed to get away with claiming my generic.

I'll think you'll see the "Goal-posts" moved (probably several times) before anything too damaging to what after-all is a govenment entity emerges.

 

[Sound]

Most of the business forums that I belong too don't seem that bothered or interested in what may happen.

Would like to see links to business forums that have shown an interest if anyone has any?.

 

[Bailey]

When you consider what the UK on-line market is worth. Lack of any general reporting tells me that the story isn't really out-there yet.

 

[websaway]

I've lost a couple of grands worth of deals this week on the back of people panicking about it. All very silly and frustrating!

Yes it's a good buyer negotiating tool.

 

[websaway]

When you consider what the UK on-line market is worth. Lack of any general reporting tells me that the story isn't really out-there yet.

I read this interesting article today

http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/un...any-other-name-would-be-more-secure/index.htm

 

[Bailey]

I read this interesting article today

http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/un...any-other-name-would-be-more-secure/index.htm

Thanks websaway - thats an interesting opinion on the proposals. So he is almost suggesting anyone could take down your website by identifying the "Security Parameters" or Indeed "Stop Words"of New Super Safe Big Brother UK Web..

 

[scooter]

all the companys that i have spoken to are not bothered about the .UK and they wont be bothering with securing the .UK extension if this happens

I can see this changing rapidly and they will want to secure the same name they have.

If I owned footballkit.co.uk and did not reg the .UK i would be mighty pissed when I see a site on it using feeds and selling the same gear. The new .uk owner just has to be patient, sit back and wait for the leakage to go the other way. (which it will) They don't need to sell a lot to recoup their £20 a year.

No one likes change but this change will be the ultimate game changer. We are all old school. Wait 10yrs and there will be no difference in the next generations eyes between uk.com. gb.com, uk.net, co.uk, gb.net, org.uk, me.uk

All shitty extensions.


There can be only one, and that will be .uk Just like .com, .de etc

I think anyone in business that does not try to secure their .UK name will be committing (in part) long term commercial suicide. I know I will be trying to secure mine and Nominet know this.

I don't think it will matter how many millions you have spent on your co.uk branding, you will still want the .UK as co.uk will pale and merge with the rest of the "sub extentions" in years to come.

What a coup for Nominet if they get away with it. Bottom line is, it is about receiving £20 per annum instead of £2.50. (800% rise)



Candle boy.....
Maybe for some, now is the time to take a £200 punt, pick a nice generic off of candle boy's list and trademark it under a different classification. If it comes down to submitting who has the best rights to the .uk name i would think you would have a stronger case as you can show candle boy in "bad light" as his intentions become obvious when you submit the whole list of prime generics to Nominet. In fact, I would hope it will make their trademarks look absurd and done in truly bad faith.










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[Bailey]

I do agree with you Scooter.

The implications for this .UK proposed launch haven't sunk home by a LONG-LONG way YET!

Candleboy will find-out soon enough - just how "sound-bite" conscious the UK Govenment (and its agencies are). 10 years ago(possibly even 5 ) the ruse would have probably worked - Not a chance that particular ploy will work today..

Who is Candle-boy anyway - Must play golf at least with our other Virgin Islands member here on Acorn

 

[monaghan]

Just a thought, but aren't .ltd.uk and .plc.uk an ideal secure place? After all, you can only register these if your company matches the name.

 

[sdsinc]

Just a thought, but aren't .ltd.uk and .plc.uk an ideal secure place? After all, you can only register these if your company matches the name.

Spot on. But I guess they are redundant. And quite honestly they don't have the mindshare that .co.uk has.
In gTLDs we have seen that TLDs that involve red tape/vetting/restrictions etc are not popular. Examples: .jobs .coop .pro (in the past) etc.
I don't think the average consumer has any clue that .ltd.uk and .plc.uk are more tightly regulated therefore more trustworthy. So there isn't any tangible benefit in practice, anyway that's what I'm guessing.

 

[foz]

Pros

• Windfall for Nominet.
• Added security?
• Is shorter.
• Revenue for Registrars.

Cons

• Controversial assigning process.
• Costly annual renewal fee.
• An increase in domain renewals.
• Added administrative cost.
• Application fee?
• Costly purchase price via auction for competing applicants.
• Confusion for internet users.
• Two competing top line domains (.co.uk & .uk).
• Forced to switch over as competitor uses .uk
• Devaluation of third level holdings.
• Costly marketing for switch over.
• Costly re-branding (Stationery,Signage etc).
• Misdirected emails.
• Legal action against Nominet?
• Lost ability to create new third level domains.
• Third level domains perceived as not secure.
• Counterfeit "trust mark" appearing on non .uk sites.
• An increase in dispute activity.

Any more suggestions? Please add.......

 

[bulkcorn]

The .uk release is absolutely unnecessary and a complete betrayal of the trust and expectations of all who bought into the .co.uk 'idea' .... If they want to go ahead with it they should give all .co.uk owners at least 90 days to acquire the .uk version of their name before it is openly available to anyone else to register.

 

[sdsinc]

Wait and let's hear what Scotland has to say. Maybe .uk will soon be no longer needed.... :-?

 

[foz]

The .uk release is absolutely unnecessary and a complete betrayal of the trust and expectations of all who bought into the .co.uk 'idea' .... If they want to go ahead with it they should give all .co.uk owners at least 90 days to acquire the .uk version of their name before it is openly available to anyone else to register.

And the .org.uk holder is where in this?

 

[websaway]

The .uk release is absolutely unnecessary and a complete betrayal of the trust and expectations of all who bought into the .co.uk 'idea' .... If they want to go ahead with it they should give all .co.uk owners at least 90 days to acquire the .uk version of their name before it is openly available to anyone else to register.

You would still have to pay for the new .uk even if you didn't use it, so as to protect your brand.
Someone with say 40 domains including varyants would have to find £800.
Extortion is putting it politely.

 

[bulkcorn]

And the .org.uk holder is where in this?

... another fixed period for the .org.uk holder to acquire if the .co.uk holder (if there is one) does not?

 

[Alien]

... another fixed period for the .org.uk holder to acquire if the .co.uk holder (if there is one) does not?

Why should .co.uk holders get first refusal?

 

[websaway]

... another fixed period for the .org.uk holder to acquire if the .co.uk holder (if there is one) does not?

I have some good org.uk''s but there would be no argument whatsoever for the org.uk owner being anywhere in the pecking order. Org.uk is sold for non profit and the new.uk would be for business.