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[foz]

All I could find for Registry data - http://db.nominet.org.uk/page/the-uk-in-detail/

No exact numbers published or circulated?

 

[foz]

https://bi.nominet.org.uk/analytics/saw.dll?Dashboard under "renewals" you can select "Compare with .uk Register"

.uk renewal rate.

Nov 2011 66.07%
Dec 2011 68.38%

Sep 2012 65.48%
Oct 2012 65.34%
Nov 2012 64.90%
Dec 2012 61.87%

Dec 2012 renewal rate of 61.87% is the lowest in the past three years (didn't go back further).

As the domain name takes 92 days to drop with 30 or so days of renewal reminders, I would think their has been a decline in .uk renewals.

 

[Systreg]

https://bi.nominet.org.uk/analytics/saw.dll?Dashboard

Just visited that link and:

Business Intelligence

Your browser is not supported by Nominet BI Presentation Services.

Doesn't support Opera browser, that's not very business intelligent :roll:

 

[Brassneck]

Sorry doesn't the BI hub (bi.nominet.org.uk) give data for activity on your own TAG only?

Yes but also give comparisons against the whole registry so you can benchmark your activity.

Stephen

 

[foz]

Yes but also give comparisons against the whole registry so you can benchmark your activity.

Stephen

Thanks, but I can't see registration activity of the Registry in there.

Would be good if Nominet just published the stats like http://dnc.org.nz/content/2012-11_stats.html

 

[Brassneck]

https://bi.nominet.org.uk/analytics/saw.dll?Dashboard under "renewals" you can select "Compare with .uk Register"

.uk renewal rate.

Nov 2011 66.07%
Dec 2011 68.38%

Sep 2012 65.48%
Oct 2012 65.34%
Nov 2012 64.90%
Dec 2012 61.87%

Dec 2012 renewal rate of 61.87% is the lowest in the past three years (didn't go back further).

As the domain name takes 92 days to drop with 30 or so days of renewal reminders, I would think their has been a decline in .uk renewals.

Caution the latest month as as not all domains are renewed immediately, ie some December names could be renewed in early April.

Stephen

 

[Brassneck]

Thanks, but I can't see registration activity of the Registry in there.

Would be good if Nominet just published the stats like http://dnc.org.nz/content/2012-11_stats.html

I'm looking at the PDF report I get sent every month which has loads of comparisons.

Stephen

 

[foz]

I'm looking at the PDF report I get sent every month which has loads of comparisons.

Stephen

Well good for you then, don't share will you.

 

[Brassneck]

Well good for you then, don't share will you.

Well every registrar can get the info if they want - I assumed most who had more than a few domains on here would have already been getting the reports. I'm hardly going to share a report that has loads of data that has my business activity included.

I think Nominet only publish the 'official' figures with a few months lag as you can't really be sure if a domain is going to be renewed until it ends up dropping after 90 plus days. By way of comparison, the November figure is 0.1 per cent higher than the figure in the report I got a couple of days ago so this is likely to end up higher.

Stephen.

 

[Stephen]

Another article

New interesting read.

http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/when-it-meets-politics/2013/01/monday-is-the-deadline-for-you.html

The most vocal opposition comes from those seeking to preserve business models based on creating IPR in domain names to sell to the highest bidder. There are, however, also a number of practical issues to be addressed and some genuine concerns over the small print and the implementation plans.

 

[Stephen]

4 days to go!

Make a difference.

To make sure it is a good 2013 please make sure you have posted your comments to Nominet on .uk proposal
http://www.nominet.org.uk/how-participate/policy-development/current-policy-discussions-and-consultations/consultation-new-uk

Or if you want to add additional comments please email them to [email protected]

Act now time is quickly running out!

 

[foz]

http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/when-it-meets-politics/2013/01/monday-is-the-deadline-for-you.html

What a load of waffle. It will be Nominet selling to the highest bidder.

 

[Stephen]

Renewal rates?

Some might be surprised that according to my latest business intelligence report from Nominet the November registration stats and renewal rates are little changed from previous months. No sign of any measurable effect caused by the .UK proposals there.
Stephen.

After seeing the number below I do believe their is a seed change in .co.uk renewals rate being reduced.

Although I accept the Google changes will add to the decline I believe the biggest factor to be Nominet's action in its handling of .uk.

https://bi.nominet.org.uk/analytics/saw.dll?Dashboard under "renewals" you can select "Compare with .uk Register"

.uk renewal rate.
Nov 2011 66.07%
Dec 2011 68.38% ...
Sep 2012 65.48%
Oct 2012 65.34%
Nov 2012 64.90%
Dec 2012 61.87%

Dec 2012 renewal rate of 61.87% is the lowest in the past three years (didn't go back further).

As the domain name takes 92 days to drop with 30 or so days of renewal reminders, I would think their has been a decline in .uk renewals.

As for saying they may be renewed later that is going to be the case for earlier months, where it is stated a 65% renewal and maybe 25% of the non renewals get renewed later, I would imagine that number for previous months will decrease so only say 15% get renewed.
That would surely start the reversal trend of growth of .co.uk.

If only Nominet would be more tranparent!

 

[Sound]

How will Nominet monitor the reselling of .uk names in the future making sure all the security criteria that they are putting in place is kept?

Will they try and stop the reselling of .uk domains on the open market.

 

[Brassneck]

After seeing the number below I do believe their is a seed change in .co.uk renewals rate being reduced.

Although I accept the Google changes will add to the decline I believe the biggest factor to be Nominet's action in its handling of .uk.



As for saying they may be renewed later that is going to be the case for earlier months, where it is stated a 65% renewal and maybe 25% of the non renewals get renewed later, I would imagine that number for previous months will decrease so only say 15% get renewed.
That would surely start the reversal trend of growth of .co.uk.

If only Nominet would be more tranparent!

Stephen - are you are TAG holder? Why don't you sign up and look at the data yourself. I personally don't see any major drop in renewals other than a continuation of the trend that was happending earlier this year.

Renewal rate figures from my report say rounded to whole numbers say:

Dec 2010 - 70%
June 2011 - 69%
Dec 2011 - 68%
June 2012 - 68%
July 2012 - 67%
Aug 2012 - 66%
Sep 2012 - 65%
Oct 2012 - 65%
Nov 2012 - 65%

The December figure is not worth discussing as there is ample time for people to renew December 2012 names. And even over a few days I have seen the November renewal rate increase by 0.1 per cent. Obviously September 2012 and earlier ought to be firm figures now.

Stephen.

 

[Brassneck]

After seeing the number below I do believe their is a seed change in .co.uk renewals rate being reduced.

Although I accept the Google changes will add to the decline I believe the biggest factor to be Nominet's action in its handling of .uk.



As for saying they may be renewed later that is going to be the case for earlier months, where it is stated a 65% renewal and maybe 25% of the non renewals get renewed later, I would imagine that number for previous months will decrease so only say 15% get renewed.
That would surely start the reversal trend of growth of .co.uk.

If only Nominet would be more tranparent!

By the way the December figure has now gone up to 62.00% when I re-run the report - as I said the figure is going to be higher than this so of no use discussing for a good few more weeks.

Stephen.

 

[martin-s]

I disagree that the renewal rate would be more affected by .uk than by Google's ranking changes. Certainly in my case, the names I'm dropping are the ones which no longer have the same appeal based on reduced ranking potential.

 

[Stephen]

Most recent I've seen was the JANET response on December 24 http://www.mydomainnames.co.uk/articles.html

Nominet sent out a very bland reminder email recently but zero new info in it.

A new point I have not seen before in the Janet article on malware suspension.

I was also reminded that suspending a domain is likely to mean it can’t send or receive e-mails, so registrants will need to have an e-mail address in some other domain to tell Nominet that they have fixed the problem!

Although they could use the phone or maybe we will need to plug in our old fax machines?

 

[Brassneck]

I disagree that the renewal rate would be more affected by .uk than by Google's ranking changes. Certainly in my case, the names I'm dropping are the ones which no longer have the same appeal based on reduced ranking potential.

Same here.

 

[Edwin]

New interesting read.

http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/when-it-meets-politics/2013/01/monday-is-the-deadline-for-you.html

Philip Virgo has already shown zero credibility in his blatant misrepresentation of Paul Keating's position in an earlier blog post, so there's nothing to be taken away from his latest missing-the-point article.