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when was a .de registered

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finding out when a cctld was registered is pretty easy. normally.
for .uk, .es etc.
even 'exotic' :cool: cctlds

however i'm buggered if i can find a good whois service that shows when a .de or .nl was regged!

not domaintools, whois.de + countless others

is this something not shown for .de and .nl or does anyone know of a quality whois service showing this?

can only see when 'changed' not registered
cheers for any pointers
 
For .nl domain names the registration date is only visible from a web WHOIS query. The command line version does not report this data. See Changes to the Whois service (the table on page 3) for full details.

I don't know anything about .de domains, sorry.
 
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