Discussion in 'Domain Name Auctions' started by Jamie101, Apr 9, 2013.
is there a philanthropy enduser angle / route for the domain?
I have turned down around 7 financially acceptable offers now for Donate.org.uk because I wouldn't sell it to the so-called Charities that wanted to buy it, for this very reason.
That could work too!
Pass their info on to me - joke.
Watched most if the show and it was amazing to see what's going on. I knew it was bad, but never knew it was that bad.
For example, there was one guy who sold hundreds of "charity" stickers (for clothes) to drop in to houses for around £5. He had 6 different stickers, one for Monday-Saturday with all different fake charities mentioned on them - the people who collects the clothes in their vans with the help of these stickers then bring back the clothes they got to the same guy to get some money.
Thats one of the reasons I buy the big issue, because I know for a fact at least £1 of my money is going into the sellers pocket. Of course the seller maybe a fraud but 50% potentially reaching its target is better than 1%.
It's a difficult one, i mean its hard to place it in a business pov. Then on the other hand if it's for charity purposes do you really want to barter to much for personal gain from a deverving charity.
whilst waiting for an enduser sale how about a site that highlights charitable donations and let people interact with the news / cause?
It can raise the profile of donatee's and the charity. We try and do our bit along those lines. Not sure if greywing would (or not) +1 this for example ?
Ironically mate I wouldn't, the forces view on Help for heroes is split. I have heard from a lot of guys that they would not promote this charity. A lot of my friends in the Marines said that funds were favoured heavily towards the Army and Marines were being ignored (I don't know the truth behind that).
They are very cash rich, but they won't spend it on injured troops, spending it on buildings and investments. It started as a very worthy cause but something in my opinion happened. Tough to criticise as the straw man argument applies. Criticise Help for Heroes and they are saying that you are saying Heroes don't need help. Which of course isn't the case.
Help for heroes shouldn't have to exist, It's as simple as that.
The government sending these poor lads off on these stupid wars should take care of them when they come back, It's bloody outrageous that they don't and I can't believe It's put up with tbh.
Reality is the domain needs to sell. Just put it on an acorn auction and as both the top 2 bidders are members it will sell with no Sedo commission. No matter what you do the domain price won't be going skyward anytime soon.
£1150 starting price and you will be laughing.
The charity angle for this domain will always be the wrong way to go. Take the percentage profit as you will never sell it for fortunes.
The way you bought this name shows you have what it takes so release the money and do it again and again on less obvious names. Greater roi all day long.
I hear your point of view and that is why there is more transparency required and why my suggestion for a site that offers public interaction. Where anyone involved (or who wants to be) can raise their concerns, point of view, objections, or from the charity defend their position.
Personally I only give (when I can) to 1 cause, I am comfortable that my few £s are helping somehow. If someone provided me with information that disputes the integrity of the charity then I would most certainly look into it and stop donating to them if I felt it appropriate to do so.
There are many willing souls who will give what they can, or do what they can for reasons they themselves decide. There are many commercial organisations that have caused misery and death for thousands (think cigarettes, alcohol, prescription medication). Blaming governments for sending people to war or combatting terrorist activity is your prerogative but saying HFH shouldn't have to exist is, in my view somewhat naive.
If you are looking at charity's for the armed forces please take a look at this one
Don't get me started on terrorism
It shouldn't be forgotton that being in the armed forces is a career choice. The risks, conditions, pay etc are all known by the person joining.
Why does it has to sell?
Any business this domain can brand, can easily be branded by scores of other cheap or free to reg domains.
Its value is in its LLL and memorable nature, not in its relation to aid as in charity stuff.
It would be madness to develop this for Jamie, from what he has said he is a young, clever student, who will soon have lots of programming knowledge, and has already demonstrated very good entrepreneurial skills in contacting the seller and buying it, plus all the other excellent business things he does.
Why would he want to stifle all that and get tied up in something that isn't really him. In 20 years he may be more inclined, but not for someone who can repeat this process and make more each time.
I'm only giving my opinion of course, but if he were to keep it and add some sort of web site, it will become a nonsense. If he had the passion and was willing to let his studies go by the way and really develop this in to a great site, the reality is, he could have chosen any name even a .org.uk, which would work better maybe, and make that a success.
Everyone telling him to keep as its worth a mint, put your money were your mouth is and give him £2.5k or more for it.
If he is not prepared to sell it below what he expected, pick up the phone and start selling it.
If you search google for aid etc you will struggle to find many people you could really approach, however, if he has the time and inclination, he could create different uses for the domain, and then approach anyone in the sector to match, and offer rebranding.
Or start a directory of some sort, Alarm installers Directory (one of hundreds of combinations) Jamie I am sure could call 500 of these, offer the benefits of not only giving the business a spread in his dorectory, but the usual deal making info, of educating them about links and how that would not only bring new traffic, but help its own site rank higher. £10 a month or £50 a year sounds cheap as chips. 20 of these gets you 1k a year sitting on your bum having only bought the domain, hosting, and a $60 template from templatemonster.com, plus a few calls which he could make from his own landline for free probably.
The reason we all don't do it is, its not for everyone using the phone in an outgoing nature, but he could if he wanted.
So will he choose to develop an aid type site? My guess is no, as it would be madness.
Will he call up businesses and sell the domain with a re branding idea he has researched and developed, possibly having to go to several meetings to pitch, he is capable I'm sure, but not what i think he would do.
Will he create a money making directory with a memorable name? I think he could easily and make it a success, but like I said earlier, I think he could FTR a domain and do this.
So the only route imo is to sell it, it will be a bit sour as it didnt make as much, but he will be on to the next step, rather than having his shiny old jag sat in his nominet account.
Either way Jamie, its given us all lots to talk about, and I wish you the best of luck with it
Now the auctions over - I too will add my pennies worth.
It is defined- hard (almost impossible) to draw away from its descriptive. As a .co.uk you don't have a choice as how it's perceived - that's already stated ( A money earning aid (commercial) support entity).
Everyone wants to make a choice for their donations. - Of course this Domain could be all sorts of related Charity Choices (take a brave man to run with it)
I Didn't think it would reach above its end auction offer - And however it's presented, I don't see that changing
Cheers for all the replies. Not going to write a long post because I've been coding all day and I'm shattered!
By the way, thanks Caz for the nice comments.
Just one quick question, am I the only one who can see this domain being used for a payday lender type of site? "Get paid with the help of Aid" or something like that?
You can't value a domain or say it has a use because it rhymes with 'paid'
As a stand alone name it's worth £1000. Keep it and forget you have it and one day someone may find a use for it.
Got to be careful as I think some of the things you want to use it for is actually "aide".
I didn't know that.
So aid = relief, as in "hearing aid" = "hearing relief" and not "hearing help"
Learn something new everyday I always thought aid meant help.
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