20i Domains

Namesco drop + new tags

Discussion in 'Nominet General Information' started by Whois-Search, Dec 29, 2019.

  1. Whois-Search

    Whois-Search Retired Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2004
    Posts:
    1,916
    Likes Received:
    112
    • Informative Informative x 1
  2. Domain Forum

    Acorn Domains Elite Member

    Joined:
    1999
    Messages:
    Many
    Likes Received:
    Lots
    articles.co.uk
     
  3. RobM

    RobM Retired Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2012
    Posts:
    3,289
    Likes Received:
    470
    One's been going since June, one since August, and one for a few years so none are brand new.
    Of course the domain we were all chasing didn't drop - if only nominet were able to mark them to let us know but apparently even they don't know according to one customer relations officer.
     
  4. Hay

    Hay Active Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    231
    Likes Received:
    30
    Your going to see a lot of tags over the next few days as its like ROR all over again, looking at whats be caught there appears to be a lot more tags than usual, some older and some newish.. a couple others ive seen over past couple of days is:

    Jill Slater [Tag = JSDOMAINS]
    Rob Elliott t/a relliottinvestments-at-gmail-dot-com [Tag = ELLIOTT]

    I think its mostly people catching for others as a Private catching service.
     
  5. Siusaidh United Kingdom

    Siusaidh Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2019
    Posts:
    764
    Likes Received:
    245
    This is only the beginning. As you probably realise, next month is more of the same kind of thing. And then there's the mother of all name drops coming in June.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  6. Hay

    Hay Active Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    231
    Likes Received:
    30
    January is going to see around 1,000,000 domains from the 2nd ror wave over a few days some of which are very good.


    Noms servers will be:

    [​IMG]
     
  7. 3gmedia United Kingdom

    3gmedia Active Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2017
    Posts:
    370
    Likes Received:
    50
    I'm mopping up some amazing names :D
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  8. Whois-Search

    Whois-Search Retired Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2004
    Posts:
    1,916
    Likes Received:
    112
    Thanks for pointing out the tags.

    I couldn’t find them all on the voting rights which were published in June (so they are new members):
    https://media.nominet.uk/wp-content.../Nominet-Voting-Rights-2019-NED-elections.pdf

    Yes there seems to be a million .uk suspended at the moment....There is only 3.6 million of them: https://www.nominet.uk/news/reports-statistics/uk-register-statistics-2019/

    So at least a third of .uk are going to drop by February?

    Without sounding like I’m pointing out the obvious here...

    If the end user (the .co.uk owner at Namesco etc) doesn’t want them even at £11.99...Who are you going to sell these ‘amazing’ names to ? Apart from maybe a £50 - £100 flip on one of the auction sites ?

    All I can see is the same tags speculating on three letters and words (at reg fee). Meanwhile the .uk extension is going the same way as .wales (no real use or secondary market).

    A good example is Whiskers.uk that dropped from Namesco. There is a firm of solicitors at https://whiskers.co.uk who didn’t want the .uk and let it drop. You can’t sell it to them (without the risk of a DRS) so who is going buy it now ? You can’t monetize the traffic to legal affiliates either. Maybe you could get lucky and sell it to Mars as a typo of https://www.whiskas.co.uk :)
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2019
  9. 3gmedia United Kingdom

    3gmedia Active Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2017
    Posts:
    370
    Likes Received:
    50
    I'm giving the .uk a chance, probably about 5 years, will just have to see where it goes.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. Ben Thomas

    Ben Thomas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2018
    Posts:
    1,536
    Likes Received:
    183
    Problem is Nominet are probably going to announce some major change to their systems early Jan and screw us all over lol
     
  11. Hay

    Hay Active Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2019
    Posts:
    231
    Likes Received:
    30
    Some .uk domains have sold for good numbers since ROR with sales well in access of 10k and 20k, now surly that's not to be ignored? Those domain owners had 5 years to take ownership of the equivalent .uk whom ignored it and thus as a result was released, caught and sold for good money.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  12. timter51

    timter51 Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2012
    Posts:
    1,223
    Likes Received:
    81
    Most buyers were domain investors stockpiling .uk hoping for the big flip in future. I think we're still along way from branding the whole a success or failure, I wouldn't read anything at all into the sales bonanza of last year..
     
    • Useful Useful x 1
  13. Siusaidh United Kingdom

    Siusaidh Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2019
    Posts:
    764
    Likes Received:
    245
    It's obvious there is going to be a huge year-on-year dip in .uk registrations, with probably almost half of all .uk domain names not being renewed by the end of the summer. That's because most of the registrations are ludicrous.

    Personally I think .uk domains can be really useful for particular brands and I figure there are around 50,000 that come up for renewal in any one year that are useful in that way. As for way over a million others that will be discarded, by the time Namesco, 123-reg, Fasthosts and Ionos have offloaded in the first half of this year, reality will be inescapable in the Nominet stats (you can't just keep on offering free registrations for ever).

    That said, in the small % of .uk domains among the dropping million that do have use and modest value, there are some that I'd be delighted to acquire. Collectively, it is a kind of ROR all over again, and there will be days in January and early June when a shed load of catchers will be peppering the system in the hope of acquiring some windfall names.

    I'm not sure how things will unfold with GoDaddy's registrations, as they operate a different model and the names can be intercepted before they drop. But with regard to the vast majority of .uk names, they are absolute garbage. It always astonishes me when I look at the drop lists: just what goes through people's minds when they register some of these names? A crappy domain is (in brand value) worse than no name at all. Because it just looks so amateur.

    With .uk in particular, you need to isolate what's quality. There are quality names dropping, but I think we're in a phase where search has so supplanted type-ins that a downturn in overall registrations in the UK is inevitable. Hence maybe Nominet's keenness to diversify and re-brand in net security etc - because when it comes to domains it is a contracting market ahead, with .uk registrations in particular going over a cliff.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  14. webber

    webber Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2019
    Posts:
    112
    Likes Received:
    33
    I'm sure you've seen this: http://blog.domainlore.uk/Cheaters_are_becoming_prolific/ (updated today)
    Looking at last weekend, they did pretty well
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2020
  15. Ben Thomas

    Ben Thomas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2018
    Posts:
    1,536
    Likes Received:
    183
    nothing here
     
    • Like Like x 1
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2020
  16. PoshTiger United Kingdom

    PoshTiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2011
    Posts:
    1,503
    Likes Received:
    74
    Utter bullshit, please embarrass yourself by pretending to speak for anyone else.
     
  17. Ben Thomas

    Ben Thomas Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2018
    Posts:
    1,536
    Likes Received:
    183
    nothing here
     
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2020
  18. Siusaidh United Kingdom

    Siusaidh Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2019
    Posts:
    764
    Likes Received:
    245
    December:

    Yeah, I think I called that one right...