.UK Announced

[Edwin]

Do you any upto date figures please for October renewals and registrations, to see if the .uk proposal has had any effect yet?

http://i.co.uk/?p=10538

 

[Brassneck]

http://i.co.uk/?p=10538

Didn't realise that Nominet had stopped publishing the monthly updates. I think it is going to be the level of renewals that is going to drive the future size of the register. Won't be long before the register is back below 10 million in my opinion - http://www.acorndomains.co.uk/nomin...uk-registered-names-about-reach-its-peak.html is well worth a revisit.

Stephen.

 

[Edwin]

I agree. Nominet's mishandling of direct.uk is the black swan event that sabotaged what I saw as a "sure thing" (growth in the UK domain market). This accelerating downward trend is 100% of their own making.

 

[Brassneck]

I agree. Nominet's mishandling of direct.uk is the black swan event that sabotaged what I saw as a "sure thing" (growth in the UK domain market). This accelerating downward trend is 100% of their own making.

I think it was already happening. Renewal rates were falling for several months before now and new registrations were starting on a downward trend. The stats in your link pre-date the announcement I think.

 

[Edwin]

There's a difference between lower growth and an out and out reduction. I believe Nominet's mindblowingly inept meddling may now cause the latter.

 

[Brassneck]

There's a difference between lower growth and an out and out reduction. I believe Nominet's mindblowingly inept meddling may now cause the latter.

I'm pretty sure there would have been contraction anyway. Over a 2-year cycle renewals represent at least 60 per cent of registrations, this means that a fall in renewal rates has a bigger impact than a fall in new registrations. Renewal rates looked like they were falling quickly already before the announcement.

Stephen.

 

[websaway]

I'm pretty sure there would have been contraction anyway. Over a 2-year cycle renewals represent at least 60 per cent of registrations, this means that a fall in renewal rates has a bigger impact than a fall in new registrations. Renewal rates looked like they were falling quickly already before the announcement.

Stephen.

Hence the announcement ?

 

[Retired_member41]

Does anyone have a link to where it explains what will happen to .uk domains when they expire?

 

[Edwin]

Does anyone have a link to where it explains what will happen to .uk domains when they expire?

From the consultation document, p13 (buried in the middle of the last paragraph on that page):

We are also of the view that it is important to maintain the high value and usage of the service by releasing domains that have expired (i.e. not renewed by the registrant) in a similar fashion to the launch release mechanisms. This would involve the suspension of expired domains and the regular publication of a list of the expired domains. A sunrise process would then be initiated to enable rights-holders to have first priority to those expired domains, followed by landrush and general availability phases where any validated rights have not been taken up, under the same rules of the initial release. Domains that have not been applied for and registered during the first three phases of Registered Rights, Unregistered Rights or the Landrush phases would be deleted and become generally available on a first-come, first-served basis.

http://www.nominet.org.uk/sites/default/files/Nominet_FINAL_electronic_form3_0.pdf

If I understand that correctly, TM holders would get another bite of the cherry, followed by *.uk domain holders, then anyone else, while Nominet coins it with auctions, auctions, auctions galore.

 

[tifosi]

So I see a prime .uk about to be suspended, speculatively register the .me.uk. Have a big bite at the cherry.

Not smart!

 

[Edwin]

So I see a prime .uk about to be suspended, speculatively register the .me.uk. Have a big bite at the cherry.

Not smart!

Smart if you're Nominet. Means more registrations, and more auctions.

Basically, every single aspect of the proposal is engineered to wring maximum revenue out of UK businesses.

 

[Edwin]

A lot of sarcasm (to be expected given the venue) but there are also a lot of useful and interesting comments in this long thread on The Register (which immediately followed the release of the initial proposal by Nominet)

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2012/10/01/nominet_shorter_dot_uk/

 

[Marcoose]

http://www.keysurvey.co.uk/votingmodule/s180/f/463488/d90a/


Grant

Should have sorted this sooner but how do I obtain a "room passcode"?

 

[Marcoose]

I think it's for nominet members only. Search this thread for a link to a web page where you complete the details to apply. Search for "webcast".

EDIT: looks like registration form no longer functions. Perhaps someone will give you the login details here.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm a member. I'll have a search now. Thanks.

 

[Marcoose]

Ahh it wasn't me being stupid. Was clicking on that link all morning in the Nominet email and been getting:

"Sorry!

Thank you for being willing to participate in this survey. This survey is now inactive. We appreciate your consideration."

Can anyone help?

 

[Sam]

Yes ill be in touch.

Ahh it wasn't me being stupid. Was clicking on that link all morning in the Nominet email and been getting:

"Sorry!

Thank you for being willing to participate in this survey. This survey is now inactive. We appreciate your consideration."

Can anyone help?

 

[Paullas]

Ahh it wasn't me being stupid. Was clicking on that link all morning in the Nominet email and been getting:

"Sorry!

Thank you for being willing to participate in this survey. This survey is now inactive. We appreciate your consideration."

Can anyone help?

same here, heard nothing from nominet either

 

[tifosi]

That makes 3. Gonna have to phone them I think.

 

[Edwin]

If anyone is up for a bit of retweeting, there's a lot of cannon fodder in my recent tweetstream!
https://twitter.com/uk_domain_names

 

[pete]

Invite to today's webcast (guest login) if anyone hasn't received the details :

Thank you for registering to view the .uk Registrar Conference live via webcast on Wednesday 21 November.

To join the webinar, please log in using the details below:

· Go to: http://nominet.adobeconnect.com/ukregistrarconference/

· Click on: Enter as a Guest

· Type in your Name and Room Passcode which is: n0m1netukconference

· You can submit questions via the Q&A box on screen


(the passcode will be activated shortly before the event and will not work before then)


Timing:

10:30 Event and Webcast live, welcome and introduction

10:40 Overview of the direct .uk proposals

10:45 Panel debate on direct .uk proposals

12:30 Close


If you have never attended an Adobe Connect meeting before:
Test your connection: http://nominet.adobeconnect.com/common/help/en/support/meeting_test.htm
Get a quick overview: http://www.adobe.com/go/connectpro_overview

For further information on the new .uk domain name service consultation http://www.nominet.org.uk/how-parti...ussions-and-consultations/consultation-new-uk

To complete a consultation click http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/1025946/Nominet-Consultation-On-a-New-UK-Name-Service

Thank you for taking part. If you have any queries please contact [email protected]


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