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  1. Murray

    Murray Well-Known Member

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    The whole world would have had to have agreed to be cautious, can't have some countries doing it and others not

    Imagine all of Europe being super cautious for 6 months, meanwhile it's working it's way slowly through another continent and as soon as we open back up oh.. back to where we started

    Seems like we're going through a controlled burn

    Slow it down, let it take 6 months going through the majority of the population instead of 2 so people can get suitable medical care if they need it

    Then in a few months things can get back to more normal rather than a 2 year lockdown
     
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    You're assuming Europe would be super-cautious for six months, then through the doors open. Why would it do that? It would use quarantine, etc.,

    Nobody knows if the controlled burn will work. It's a theory that has been put into practice and we have yet to see the outcome. We're guinea pigs whatever they choose!
     
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    Italy just announced the number they are giving the media for death toll is likely 500% inflated.

    The true number of covid deaths is closer to 12% of the number they reported to you. Direct from from their national health Minister.

    When Italy said: "3000 covid deaths." they meant was "we've had 3000 people who test positive for sara-cov-2 die for various reasons. 360 of them died from covid 19."

    Taken from Reddit - food for thought..
     
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  5. Murray

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    At a certain point of doing it economically wouldn't things start to meltdown? the consequences of a sustained lockdown are scarier than the virus

    At what point would there start to be shortages, riots, social breakdown
     
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    Quarantine would be for those entering a virus-free Europe, not for those living in it where life would have returned to normality (all theory ;)).
     
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    What about the impact on global tourism? airlines? cruises? hotels?

    Can that collapse within itself without knocking over other dominos and everything coming down
     
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    This was in the papers over a week ago.

    To be clear, 12% of deaths were directly caused by covid-19.

    “On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says.

    This does not mean that Covid-19 did not contribute to a patient's death, rather it demonstrates that Italy's fatality toll has surged as a large proportion of patients have underlying health conditions.

    Which is what we already knew. Those with pre-existing conditions are most likely to die from contracting covid-19.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...se/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/
     
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    Just holiday within Europe. ;)

    Like I say, it's a theory that might kill the virus dead. Of course there will be consequences for other aspects of life.
     
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    In 2018 there were 139 million inbound arrivals to destinations within the EU are from outside of European countries

    How much money do those 139 million people put into Europe? billions and billions I'd imagine
     
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    And how many Europeans holiday outside of Europe? I'm guessing they spend billions too.

    PS This is my last response to this. It is a theory. It isn't going to happen!
     
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  13. Murray

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    Well exactly, the world is too interlinked financially, it would all start coming down

    The theory/cure seems worse than the problem long term :p
     
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    A virus has exposed the fundamental weakness of economies the world over, all underpinned by artificially low interest rates and cronyism.
     
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    Likely as not we haven't even reached the tipping point yet. It could still get a lot worse, not just in terms of deaths but in terms of society breaking down.

    There are still a lot of people falling through the cracks of government help.

    All bloody scary to be honest.
     
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    #1 is bloody difficult but on reflection it's the only way to handle it - no amount of evidence or reason will work
     
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    Crazy numbers. We're in uncharted territory really, and who knows how long it will take for things to get back to normal. And even then, there will be a lot of fear in certain demographics about being in crowds, which will also impact theit behaviour and the economy.
     
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    So ask for censorship because people have other views?
     
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    Yes, when those views are unhinged and dangerous.

    Because they spread, like a virus.
     
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    Make better points, produce evidence to the contrary and challenge people. Censorship is just lazy and childish.
     
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