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Deleting domains

Discussion in 'Nominet General Information' started by FC Domains, Aug 1, 2006.

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  1. Slater United Kingdom

    Slater Active Member

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    You can't delete a domain that has already been paid for you will get back a message from the Automaton as below:

    V151 Domain name has been paid for

    Think this ruling is really going to hammer some catchers who catch what appears to be a large number of rubbish domains on a daily basis.
     
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  3. rob

    rob Founding Member

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    Yup - thus why I am saying surrendering not deleting, as I cannot see people going through the hassle of surrendering a name that does not perform well, they will just hang on to it.
     
  4. retired_member16

    retired_member16 Banned

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    Less domains available = higher prices for resellers.
     
  5. Existent United Kingdom

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    Use the automaton-test-xxx.co.uk dummy registration.
     
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    retired_member6 Banned

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    It sounds good enough to me, keep the domain if you want it, if you don't, don't reg it. It seems to be working already, however 5% is still a lot depending on how many you catch, just factor it into your P&L.
     
  7. rob

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    There was me thinking the clamour for the new rules was purely altruistic :)
     
  8. invincible

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    Test registrations

    Great. I'd forgotten about that one. More information can be found here.
     
  9. scooter United Kingdom

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    I'm with you firestars. This is good news for the whole community at large.

    "try before you buy" is coming to an end. The only complainers will be TAG holders with access to DAC that are throwing a large % of names back as the ppc doesn't stack up.


    I sincerely don't think there will be less names available, it will be the opposite. Some TAG holders are regging 20+ names a day and throwing almost 30% of them back at the end of the month. This means they will be getting billed for £1000+ a month more than they are at present.


    I guess that will be the end of:
    123-search-engine-optimization.co.uk ;) and a myriad of others.

    Just like the baggy minnows here, it will be time to put your money where your script is :cool:

    Hats off to Nominet. Thank you.

    .
     
  10. Jay Daley New Zealand

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    Not that I'm aware of, though that's not to say you're wrong. Can you point me at where you saw this, either on an archive or the old URL?
     
  11. Jay Daley New Zealand

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    5% is not the limit and I'm not sure the web pages can make this any clearer. The limit on deletion before invoice for anything other than a genuine mistake is zero, yes zero. Any deletions that we believe are for domain tasting will be considered for further action.

    5% is where the automated block kicks in.
     
  12. retired_member16

    retired_member16 Banned

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    Zero?


    www.deleting.co.uk/caught

    That should be enough to remove the tags of the guilty parties. Please let us know how you get on.
     
  13. Jay Daley New Zealand

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    It is effective from the 8th of August, as the announcement says. Don't worry, we get the stats.
     
  14. retired_member11

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    So how do you determine that a deletion was for ppc reasons?
     
  15. Jay Daley New Zealand

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    On a case by case basis. But it is unlikely that someone will make lots of mistakes every month.
     
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    Yes,....a case by case basis, but the second clause of your sentence suggests that detection is only possible if a consistent pattern of deletions is detected, which implies that an isolated deletion now and then is undetectable (not technically undetectable, but undetectable when set against your method of scrutiny).

    I've never deleted a name, ever. If I delete one later today for ppc reasons how can you say it was for that reason? Where is your evidence? Or, is this to be a Diplock system of justice?
     
  17. FC Domains

    FC Domains Well-Known Member

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    Let's see if I can ask this very simply.

    You are saying that if I delete more than 5 (or 5%) of domains in a month then I will be charged for them regardless.
    That sounds fair.

    However, I am then not allowed to delete these names. Why not? I'll have to pay for them, so what is the difference to Nominet?

    Why do Nominet want to make more work for themselves?
    Why do they want to send in the heavies if you delete paid for (will have to pay for) domains?
     
  18. Jay Daley New Zealand

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    Because you are the tag holder, and from payment onwards we only take the registrants word that they want it cancelled, not the tag holder.
     
  19. retired_member11

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    Why would you want to delete a domain you have paid for? Just let it lapse in two years time.
     
  20. paul

    paul Well-Known Member

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    I think what Colin is asking is, if you want to delete say 8 domains before the 6th of the following month and you are not buying them in the first place for domain tasting purposes, why can he not delete all 8 and just get charged for any number over the limit ie. 3
     
  21. Jay Daley New Zealand

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    I'm not sure he was, but to answer your point...

    If you need to delete more than that limit, because of a genuine mistake, then please contact us to discuss it. We are not going to be inflexible on this. The web page says the same thing.
     
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