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Deleting domains

Discussion in 'Nominet General Information' started by FC Domains, Aug 1, 2006.

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  1. FC Domains

    FC Domains Well-Known Member

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    Why should it matter why I registered them, so long as I pay for them?

    Often I think better of a domain and delete it, having already been invoiced.
    It saves having to remember not to renew it and I don't get all the emails, or pro-froma invoices.
     
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  3. SF

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    Jay, Dont really agree with this new rule.

    In the future - Will you be telling us what names to register as well :???:

    Whats the big deal with tasting a domain name?, it is"first come first serve basis" isnt it?
     
  4. Jay Daley New Zealand

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    Because you can use a lot of our system resources up without paying for it.
     
  5. Jay Daley New Zealand

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    We offer the chance for people to correct errors for free. Are you really saying that we should not do that and that every registration should be invoiced no matter what?
     
  6. winnie United Kingdom

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    I would be interested to know what is considered "a lot" of system resources.
     
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    No. I'm saying that you are setting a limit of 5 (or 5%) which seems fair enough. After which you will be charged for every registration, even if you delete it.
    Which is what the original message said.

    Why does it need the additional threats? (For the third time of asking.)
     
  8. rob

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    Same with DRS's , I could start at aaa.co.uk and work my way through a list of domains.

    That would be free and there are no rules to stop it :)

    Likewise LIST commands probably use more resources but I do not believe they are limited (if they are it will be out of the daily 1000 I guess).
     
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    If names are to become registered, and in the context of the 5 million names already registered with Nominet, there will increasingly need to be an incentive, an inducement, or else the rate at which names are registered will eventually slow to a trickle. The potential of a name needs to be assessed in some way. What about a quota? Each tag holder gets a fixed quota of names they can 'register' but throw back if the numbers don't add up? Nominet could factor that capacity into their system without too much difficulty, no?
     
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    I don't think people can say it any clearer, pay for what you buy, NO TASTING!
     
  11. Jac

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    Ordinary registrants do not need to assess the potential of a domain name, they usually just want to register it and use it for their own personal or business purposes.

    Whilst I can understand that the new rule may be deemed unfair by those involved in "tasting", the majority (who are not involved in this business practice) may well regard it as completely fair.

    Nominet's role is to apply its rules equally to all concerned and that means ensuring they are fair to all concerned. As far as I can see, that's all Nominet is doing in this instance.

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    "...pay for what you buy..." isn't quite the same issue as taste before you buy.

    I'll go to the deli counter at Sainsburys and have a taster of something new before buying, and that makes sense for Sainsburys too. It's called looking after your regular customers. If I buy I pay. Can I be any clearer?
     
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    Taste some sausage. Think about how much you like that sausage. Decide for a couple of weeks if you are going to buy that sausage.

    Dont worry about all the people behind you in the queue that cant buy sausage until your decide if you want it or not.

    Sausage becomes available after 99 days. If you dont know if you want it during that time period then you shouldnt be allowed in the supermarket.
     
  14. rob

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    The new rules assume that people will not be 'tasting' names, what if the tasting still goes on and the people just accept higher costs?

    The people in the queue will not be able to have the sausage for 2 years... by that time it might be a tad mouldy ;)

    Fair enough saying "domain tasting is not desirable" but to make shoddy excuses saying it uses up too many resources or that it is to enable other people to have a chance to register a domain is just wrong.
     
  15. Jac

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    Yes, but you can't spit it back once you've tasted it. :-D

    If 100% of registrants had the same opportunity as you to "taste" domain names, I'd say you had a point but as Jay said earlier, the practice of tasting means you are using a lot more resources than the average tag holder or registrant and you are not paying for the extras; you are cancelling/deleting the names you want to spit back before the 30 days are up. If Nominet continued to allow this practice they would not be looking after their regular customers at all, they would only be looking after a handful of tag holders. Whilst some may argue this is just 'A N Other' domain name taster employing entrepreunerial flair to his/her own advantage, what it actually does is disadvantage every other tag holder and registrant who does not manipulate the system with the intention of never paying for the tasting. I don't understand why you seem to think that intentionally misusing the automaton is actually okay?

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    So the upper class can taste but the working class can't? We've been here before Maggie and yes you Blair. :mrgreen:
     
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    I make you right, no excuses but if you want the domain for two years then keep it, if you don't then don't reg it.
     
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    The thing some of us are concerned about is the overly aggressive stance they are taking coupled with the poor definition of "mistake"

    I think its great that they are clamping down on tasting and reducing the delete ration from 20%/10% to 5% should prevent most of it happening.

    However the definition of the term "mistake" is concerning.

    If I see a domain that I think "oh Mr Blogs might like that" and register it, only to find out he doesn't want it is that a mistake ?

    What if a customer changes his mind, I didn’t make a mistake registering it, how will Nominet interpret that.

    Or are we just talking spelling mistakes here.

    If Nominet fully intend to be reasonable about this then why not word it more carefully and less aggressive.
     
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    What people? What queue? I'm talking about names that have been available 'forever' and yet have had no takers whatsoever. The moment I think about taking a nibble and suddenly everyone is gagging for that same name? I don't think so. Anyway, I don't eat meat.
     
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    Thanks for your post Jay, I appreciate the reply back.
     
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    That is probably what is going to happen Rob.
     
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