Dogs Home Fire

[SkinnerSkinner is verified member.]

I don't know how many have seen this (or managed not to) but Manchester Dogs home was set on fire last night.

My mum and sister was on site at the church dealing with donations until the early hours of this morning. the goods support donated has been insane.

I know there are dog lovers on here, so figured I'd post the link


https://www.justgiving.com/ManchesterDogsHomeMEN

There is also this http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...s-off-as-owners-post-dog-selfies-9728372.html which is along the lines of the no make up selfie and ice bucket lark.

 

[stellar73]

Thanks Skinner, saw it last night and went to bed in tears. Cant imagine what the poor staff must be going through.

Have given a donation. Nice to see they are getting so much support.

Oh and well done to your Mum and sister!

 

[DomainPortfolio.ukDomainPortfolio.uk is verified member.]

Hadn't seen the news of that, thanks for posting, pretty sickening to see so many dogs die in that way , and some 15 year old scum bag arrested for arson

 

[aZooZaaZooZa is verified member.]

Managed not to watch any of it so far.

 

[ian]

Such a shame and horrible for the dogs, many of which are already in poor mental state from past experiences.

 

[DaveLeedsDaveLeeds is verified member.]

Thanks for posting Steven. Over 3/4m raised so far.

 

[SkinnerSkinner is verified member.]

I think the total is well over 1 million now, including Chelsea Norris, The America Dog People, the MEN and the other website fund raisers (hitting upto £10k each), I think the combined is over 1,000,000. However the MEN lone fund raiser is heading to 1m.

I'm a little irked that the MEN are trying to claim its their readers and their paper, yet huff post, bbc and everyone else is linking to their fund raiser, but MEN are taking advantage, which is poor form :/

The end result is awesome tho, lots of builders, joiners and construction companies pledging labour and materials, with any luck they will have the fund raiser money + insurance money + labour/materials and donations to come back bigger and better than ever.

 

[Retired_Member38]

In a weird and almost sick way, this fire might turn out to be a good thing.

50 dogs died, but they're going to raise over a million quid off the back of it. Presumably the building is insured so thats all extra money in their pocket once its rebuilt. And how many people are now going to adopt a dog to try and help out? Its massively raising awareness.

 

[SkinnerSkinner is verified member.]

I think many will agree, quite often it seems the best in mankind only comes when they are sickened to the core with something horrific like this.

The fact websites around the world picked it up too, and I've seen people from Nigeria, Japan, Australia and US and more contribute, says a lot about human nature.

The number is higher than 50, 42/43 in the actual fire and heading to the same again from I assume stress, shock, smoke inhalation, etc

Allegedly, the little scrote who did it, claims first of all the dogs home turned his family down for a dog and he was angry, but it appears his family didn't support this as his story changed to "a dog once bit him, he doesn't like dogs". His name and address are also out on social media, so I hope he's proud of his revenge and ruining not only his own life but his parents.

In a weird and almost sick way, this fire might turn out to be a good thing.

50 dogs died, but they're going to raise over a million quid off the back of it. Presumably the building is insured so thats all extra money in their pocket once its rebuilt. And how many people are now going to adopt a dog to try and help out? Its massively raising awareness.

 

[ian]

Allegedly, the little scrote who did it, claims first of all the dogs home turned his family down for a dog and he was angry, but it appears his family didn't support this as his story changed to "a dog once bit him, he doesn't like dogs". His name and address are also out on social media, so I hope he's proud of his revenge and ruining not only his own life but his parents.

Chances are that neither he, nor his parents give a damn, and with the criminal system in this country, nothing will come of his actions, apart from a criminal record leading to a life of misdemeanors.

 

[bonusmedia]

Always thought it was a little weird that most of this country cares more about dogs than people.

Burn down a children's home and see if you get a million quid

 

[Retired_Member38]

Chances are that neither he, nor his parents give a damn, and with the criminal system in this country, nothing will come of his actions, apart from a criminal record leading to a life of misdemeanors.

The kids name is widely known - they're currently in police protection.

 

[SkinnerSkinner is verified member.]

You're either mad or mental.

Are you honestly hand on heart saying you believe if a childrens home of 200 kids burned down, burning to death 25% of the population, you don't believe it would raise more than a million ?

Children in need raises 30,000,000 in 1 night, such an event as above would not only raise many many many millions globally, but the backlash would be incredible.

Burn down a children's home and see if you get a million quid

 

[bonusmedia]

You're either mad or mental.

Are you honestly hand on heart saying you believe if a childrens home of 200 kids burned down, burning to death 25% of the population, you don't believe it would raise more than a million ?

Children in need raises 30,000,000 in 1 night, such an event as above would not only raise many many many millions globally, but the backlash would be incredible.

Remember when that bastard Philpott burned half his kids?
There was a trust fund for the rest. Raised £15k.

 

[SkinnerSkinner is verified member.]

Now look up the lad who beat his dog with a hammer, left it dying overnight. Woke up in the morning found it had pissed itself (prob from brain damage), he proceeded to chase it around trap it between his legs drive a knife into the animals chest, and go sign on before coming home to find it shaking on the floor vomiting where he finished it off, 8 hours, yes EIGHT HOURS later.

How much was raised for that ? £0.00

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tabbed-chest-leaving-home-sign-JobCentre.html

Last month a woman kept her horse kept with only ragwort to eat (which is highly toxic and causes liver failure), the horse was suffering major liver failure. It was so bad it had collapsed, unable to stand. It had staining around its body indicating it had been immobile for some time.

Total raised ? £0.00

Earlier this year a horse dumped in a field to starve to death, hell read the story https://www.thedodo.com/horse-found...m_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_256691

Total Raise ? £0.00

In general the government fund injured humans as well, animals they do not, hence more empathy for them.

Its like comparing apples to oranges.

 

[tifosi]

Originally Posted by bonusmedia View Post
Burn down a children's home and see if you get a million quid

Tend to agree. There would be a far bigger furore about the health an safety failures. Social services & local governments would take a bashing... but a fund for the children's home raising millions? Doubtful.

Had this discussion with others yesterday. I find the public response quite fascinating...

There's so much suffering & perceived suffering in the media. The deaths of innocents is a daily occurrence. We hear about it within minutes, or even seconds. It's the cultural equivalent of banner blindness on a website.

It takes something out of the ordinary that essentially slaps us in the chops.

Remember the marathon runner? People die in marathons every year. Mainly middle aged blokes. But a young pretty woman running for charity who dies because of a reaction taking an over the counter supplement. It's that 'unusual' quality. As much as we can imaging the fear of the animals trapped in their cages, we have the same reaction to a woman never having children etc. It's the Princess Di response...shock

Children in need / Sport Relief is as much an annual night of cultural blackmail as it is an entertainment event. It's fitted in at a time of year when we're most susceptible. Nov when the dark nights are looming and Christmas is on the horizon, or early spring when we're a bit more hopeful.

It's the backlash you mentioned. It has to be a response other than anger. Hopefully it never has to be tested!

It's the same emotional response that has us susceptible to the charms of religion... but that's a whole new topic!

 

[SkinnerSkinner is verified member.]

I can't believe that if a childrens home of 200 burned down and 60 children died, and an appeal were launched, that less than a million would be raised. I can't think of a similar type tragedy in human terms other than maybe 911, but thats not really the same. Half a billion dollars I believe is the total there.

 

[bonusmedia]

It's the same emotional response that has us susceptible to the charms of religion... but that's a whole new topic!

Dangerous ground

I may be wrong but I think most animal shelters end up putting most of the animals down anyway, since nobody actually wants the unattractive/diseased/aggressive ones

 

[bonusmedia]

I can't believe that if a childrens home of 200 burned down and 60 children died, and an appeal were launched, that less than a million would be raised. I can't think of a similar type tragedy in human terms other than maybe 911, but thats not really the same. Half a billion dollars I believe is the total there.

Wow. 9/11 killed what, 3,000 people?

Mosquitos kill 750,000 per year. Most of those deaths could be prevented with a $4 net

 

[SkinnerSkinner is verified member.]

Like I said, I can't think of similar scale human event to the manc dog home to compare. 9/11 is only other large scale thing I can think of. Where there was large loss of life and funds raised.

Wow. 9/11 killed what, 3,000 people?

Mosquitos kill 750,000 per year. Most of those deaths could be prevented with a $4 net