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Discussion in 'Domain Tools' started by lazarus, May 3, 2020.

  1. lazarus

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  3. Pedigree United Kingdom

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    No problem I appreciate you have been keeping busy with making online appearances and all..

    Some restriction or barrier to entry is definitely needed, maybe limiting how many auctions you can run with a reserve at any one time will stop it from being flooded.

    On a different note how do the popular listings work as they never seem to change and I have at least one domain that appears to be more popular than most in the list?

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    Checked flip out last night & I like it.

    The only thing I've noticed (and it has probably been flagged before but I don't have time to go back through 14+ pages -sorry!) is that on some domains, the domain in the URL doesn't match the domain you're making an offer on?

    https://www.flip.uk/listing/< THIS BIT ! >/00000

    Otherwise, great job. Looking forward to bidding on a few names.
     
  5. lazarus

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    Hi @donton
    I'm glad you like it and welcome to flip.

    Please can you give an example of the non matching url thing.

    Cheers, Colin
     
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    Will pm you now!
     
  7. lazarus

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    Hi @DJ Wood Popular auctions are ordered by bids and then ordered by peoples watch lists. Bids are worth more than watchlists.

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    Thanks Webber. I will take a look at that over the weekend.

    Also just to add. When an auction is new (in the last 24hrs) it will have the "NEW" tag applied to it. This saves you time if you visit the auctions daily. This is also the case for the marketplace too.

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    Just wondering if you have looked into putting any caps in place? The auction listings are flooded with fairly low quality with what I presume are high reserves. Not only is it making me reluctant to list anything, half the time I can't even be bothered to look through them and I am pretty sure I can't be the only one.

    This user currently has 39 active auctions running all with reserves without 1 single bid:

    https://www.flip.uk/other-items/gbcinvestments/67

    This user has 22 live auctions without any bids:

    https://www.flip.uk/other-items/citiolajide/163/

    They also have the same auction running twice:

    https://www.flip.uk/search?parent_id=&keywords=flattolet

    The site is looking good but the above is seriously doing it more harm than good.
     
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    We mustn't drive sellers away just cause we think the quality of their domains isn't great.
    But I agree there should be a limit on how soon a user can relist a domain for auction.
    It's a very odd deja-vu when some domains keep reappearing.
    And in all honesty if those domains didn't sell the first time, it's unlikely they will sell the second or third time, especially with a reserve.
    A different user however should be able to relist a domain asap as there are cases where a domain is bought to be relisted.
     
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    I agree, I have already suggested that domains should only be able to be relisted if the reserve is removed or price lowered. i.e. Sorry this domain did not sell for the asking price of £50 in the last 28 days. Please reduce the asking price or wait 28 days prior to relisting.

    I think something similar to above as well as a cap on how many auctions you can have running with a reserve price at any one time would be a good idea.
     
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    Hi @Pedigree

    Thanks for your message.

    I am indeed in the process of implementing some sort of system to discourage lots of listings that are rotated. There has to be a balance I agree 100%

    Domain Quality: The thing about domains is that it is highly subjective. I might think something is of low quality and the next person that is in that industry / field thinks it is of high quality. Who am I to judge?.. So the only way is for the buyers decide what a domain is worth.

    The "New" label will show you the latest auctions each day to come onto the platform.

    If you don't want to go through all the auctions then just look at the Spotlight section. The cream always rises to the top! This will show you the most popular auctions that are clearly premium or have bids. Also it is easy to see on the All auctions tab, the auctions that are finishing for that day.

    Duplicates: Once in a blue moon a duplicate appears. I actually have the modification on my test server and this will be going over to the live server shortly.

    I hope this answers your queries. It is a continuing process of tweaking things and when time permits.

    Kindest, Colin
     
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    Who's in favour of having a broad reserve indicator on the auction page?

    For example. For the hundreds range and a hidden reserve of £300 you would see "Low £xxx" and for anything over £500 "High £xxx" Same for the thousand range.

    Cheers, Colin

    Edit... Maybe in this format across all the ranges (£xx,£xxx,£x,xxx,£xx,xxx,£xxx,xxx)
    • Low 0 - 3.5
    • Mid 3.5 - 6.5
    • High 6.5 - 10
     
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    As a bidder I would find that info valuable because I would know whether it's within my budget or if I am wasting my time.
    But from the seller's perspective and as a platform this could have a negative effect: less bids will be placed which might suggest less interest or less activity.
    Just my two cents...
     
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    Cheers Webber & Dee
     
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    Maybe put a filter option not to show reserve auctions which can be saved to the account?
     
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    I don't think a reserve would normally be an issue, it only becomes problematic when the reserve is unrealistic, or is aimed at the end user, rather than a trade sale.

    I think unrealistic reserves devalue the platform, and I'm sure one site used to charge 5% to list a name with a reserve, as a way to discourage its use. Maybe reserves should be capped, or instead of a reserve, the name is simply listed with a higher starting bid.
     
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    I'm not sure I fully agree with this as this will effect genuine sellers who set modest and realistic reserves.

    The issue is that there are a few users that are constantly flooding the auctions with unrealistic reserve prices. I would rather see a cap implemented on the amount of auctions you can run with a reserve price (a maximum of 1 or 2) as well as a restriction to a name being relisted within a timeframe unless it is reduced. I would also welcome a cap to how many active auctions a user can have running at anyone time, regardless of reserve. The amount could be increased by the amount of feedback a user has. Or could be increased as soon as an active auction will sell (i.e. it has been bid on and the reserve has been met).

    I am sorry to be negative Colin as I know you are working hard and the platform and concept has the potential to be great, but I feel the site has stagnated over the last couple of months and any early momentum you had, is sadly starting to fade away - and I truly believe this is a result of 2 or 3 users abusing the fact you are offering a free platform without any barriers to entry. Maybe the data would prove me wrong but this is just my opinion.
     
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