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  1. Whois-Search United Kingdom

    Whois-Search Well-Known Member

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    Can someone explain how the top .uk names being caught by “John Sisk” etc

    Are ending up on Domain Lore as “caught” ?

    Yesterday:

    adam.uk John Sisk [Tag = JSISK]
    alan.uk John Sisk [Tag = JSISK]

    Today:

    ew.uk John Sisk [Tag = JSISK]
    et.uk John Sisk [Tag = JSISK]
    ce.uk John Sisk [Tag = JSISK]
    fa.uk John Sisk [Tag = JSISK]

    Example pre-bid auction:

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    Now on the front: www.domainlore.uk

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    Adam.uk was pre-ordered at DL for £6

    It is now showing as “Caught” at DL and appearing on the ROR auction on the front page.

    However it was instead caught by John Sisk on a different tag:

    https://www.nominet.uk/whois/?query=Adam.uk#whois-results

    The same applies to Alan.uk caught yesterday:

    https://www.nominet.uk/whois/?query=alan.uk#whois-results
     
  5. Trauiner United Kingdom

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    Do you mean you pre-ordered it for £6?

    The rules for the pre-bidding on .UK domains at DL is that you pre-order it for £6 and pay £50 for the domain if it's caught and you were the only bidder. However, if there's more than 1 bidder, it goes to public auction on their site, which it has.

    I guess it could be one of two things. Either John Sisk caught it first and listed it via DL or John Sisk is one of the TAGs that DL were using to catch domains.
     
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    This is different to normal listings on Domainlore. Pre-orders were placed yes and DL is showing as “caught”.

    It seems likely DL is running the drop catching software on the other tag ?

    Also I’ve just found another tag being used: CAMBRIDGE

    https://www.nominet.uk/whois/?query=Bournemouth.uk#whois-results

    https://www.nominet.uk/whois/?query=build.uk#whois-results

    So you can expect these on DL soon:

    edinburgh.uk
    film.uk
     
  7. Murray

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    They're catching very well, they're putting the domains straight to DL

    It doesn't seem out of the realms of possibility they're using Denys system and they've agreed to auction everything they catch and split the profits
     
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    Indeed

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    Worth noting also that John Sisk has been looking at the thread and decided not to reply so far, so whatever they're doing, it doesn't look like they wish to discuss it directly at present ha!
     
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    Both CAMBRIDGE and JSISK use Denys script normally, so it is possible the 'deal' on this release was all domains caught are sent to auction.
     
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    Funny you recognise that behaviour
     
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    i guess we know who will get k.uk
     
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    Indeed, they did. I think they pooled their resources.
     
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    He's a client of Denys, i.e. uses his script.
     
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    I'm not sure how it works but I think people using Denys script have to send caught domains to auction and split the sale 50 / 50 or at least it used to work that way. I'm not sure what happens with non premium stuff i.e if the catchers get to keep those domains without it having to go direct to auction.
     
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    I was only monitoring one (c a v) and it said MISSED at DomainLore; it was caught by JSISK so wouldve thought it would show as CAUGHT on the same basis as the opening poster, and be listed as up for auction.
     
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    Did it have pre-order bids ?
     
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    I remember reading an old thread on here about oyster.co.uk and the workings of their arrangement, at least at the time

    I think it was something like, Denys and catcher both agree to a reserve price, then they get a chance to pay 1/2 the money and keep the domain, or they put it to auction
     
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    It now has DL nameservers, so it will probably be up for auction;
     
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    Well whatever happened, one of you has forced him off the forum for good because of nasty, anonymous emails this morning telling him he needs to come on the forum and explain himself. I quote part of his email;

    "Domains were just a hobby and I have enjoyed using Acorn but you catch a
    few domains at once (the first time in 9 years) and it all turns nasty
    on email.

    Feel free to explain I left acorn due to emails received manly this
    morning, as I have worked with many people over the years on Acorn and
    all in a good way."
     
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    Sounds a bit sensitive John
     
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