Beware Brexit and .EU domains

[aZooZa]

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/29/eu_dumps_300000_ukowned_domains_into_brexit_bin/

 

[Edwin]

Wow! Unintended negative consequence of Brexit #996. Or was it #997. To be honest, I've lost count.

Hope nobody on here has any .eu that will be affected!

(Hat tip to the Reg for this, but apparently the Leave.EU mob use... Leave.eu)

 

[Ben Thomas]

I honesty, has anybody ever reg'd a .eu?

Anyone?

Ever.

 

[Sean]

Perhaps you should go back to Japan Edwin?

 

[Edwin]

I honesty, has anybody ever reg'd a .eu?

Anyone?

Ever.

Close to 4,000,000 .eu have been registered.
https://eurid.eu/en/about-us/

Apparently around 300,000 of those were registered to people in the UK, according to the Reg article.

So the answer is clearly “yes”.

However if you’re referring solely to people on Acorn then perhaps not?

 

[Sean]

Most other countries allow foreign nationals to register domains on their TLD's. This is yet another example of petty behaviour.

Pathetic, but having lived in Europe for the past 6 years, it's nothing more than you'd expect especially from the Northern countries.

 

[Ben Thomas]

The leave ref. should never have happened. The people in this country are so miseducated and misinformed, it was clearly a swayed, bias decision implemented at a time when the countries hate levels for immigrants were at an all time high. 90% of people probably voted to leave just for the immigration laws and the "British solidarity". Ridiculous. Now 40 bn divorce bill and we're still nowhere near ready to leave.

 

[websaway]

Close to 4,000,000 .eu have been registered.
https://eurid.eu/en/about-us/

Apparently around 300,000 of those were registered to people in the UK, according to the Reg article.

So the answer is clearly “yes”.

However if you’re referring solely to people on Acorn then perhaps not?

"mob" ?" a large crowd of people, especially one that is disorderly and intent on causing trouble or violence."
It's democracy, it might not appeal to you but if I remember correctly your views were very much about self interest.

 

[websaway]

The leave ref. should never have happened. The people in this country are so miseducated and misinformed, it was clearly a swayed, bias decision implemented at a time when the countries hate levels for immigrants were at an all time high. 90% of people probably voted to leave just for the immigration laws and the "British solidarity". Ridiculous. Now 40 bn divorce bill and we're still nowhere near ready to leave.

Well it did and it's done don't keep sawing sawdust.

 

[Edwin]

Most other countries allow foreign nationals to register domains on their TLD's. This is yet another example of petty behaviour.

Pathetic, but having lived in Europe for the past 6 years, it's nothing more than you'd expect especially from the Northern countries.

.ca is limited to Canadians
.us is limited to Americans
.com.au is limited to Australians
.ie is limited to the Irish
etc.

You’re right that a lot of minor ccTLDs (and a few major ones, notably .de, .uk and .cn) are open to all, but most of the big ones are closed.

 

[Edwin]

It's democracy, it might not appeal to you but if I remember correctly your views were very much about self interest.

Let’s not restart that argument! It literally will never end, but it will derail the thread.

 

[RobM]

You see the word 'brexit' in a thread title or post you know that it's going to be a thread to ignore.

 

[Adam H]

They are aware we are not leaving Europe ? Just the European union.

I'm sure there will be some arguments to be had surrounding protecting a brand if a European trademark is held but have a European TLD revoked.

Europe is a continent, territory. Not a country so other instances of only nationals being allowed to register mentioned above are kind of a non-starter.

 

[Edwin]

You see the word 'brexit' in a thread title or post you know that it's going to be a thread to ignore.

I take it you’re not invested in any .eu domains, then?

 

[Edwin]

They are aware we are not leaving Europe ? Just the European union.

I'm sure there will be some arguments to be had surrounding protecting a brand if a European trademark is held but have a European TLD revoked.

.eu has never been for the whole of Europe (despite what it looks like) but only for countries in the EU and the EEA.

Your other point about trademarks is very interesting. I wonder what happens to UK trademarks in the EU and EU trademarks in the UK after Brexit day?

At the moment a trademark filed in one EU member state is valid in all 28. Not clear how that’s going to work. Will they go down the .eu route and throw all the UK trademarks out? Or will they be grandfathered?

Presumably no matter what accommodation is reached, it’s likely companies will have to file at least 2 trademarks in future (one for the UK, one for the EU27) So that will mean good business for Luxembourg and other IP specialists.

 

[Adam H]

.eu has never been for the whole of Europe (despite what it looks like) but only for countries in the EU and the EEA.

You are certainly correct, very interesting:

SECTION 1. THE REGISTRANT MUST DETERMINE WHETHER IT MEETS THE

GENERAL ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA


In this first step the Registrant must verify whether it meets the General

Eligibility Criteria, whereby it must be:


(i) an undertaking having its registered office, central administration or principal place of business within the European Union, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein, or

(ii) an organisation established within the European Union, Norway, Iceland or Liechtenstein without prejudice to the application of national law, or

(iii) a natural person resident within the European Union, Norway, Iceland or

Liechtenstein.


The eligible countries and territories are listed in Annex 1 hereto.


If the Registrant does not meet one of the above eligibility criteria, there is no entitlement to register a Domain Name under the .eu TLD.


If the Registrant files a request for a Domain Name registration and is unable to meet, or no longer meets, the above conditions, the Registry is entitled to reject the request or to revoke the Domain Name concerned at any time in accordance with Sections 6.4 and 8.4 of the Terms and Conditions.

 

[Sean]

The people in this country are so miseducated and misinformed ..

You being the exception?

 

[websaway]

Let’s not restart that argument! It literally will never end, but it will derail the thread.

You referred to leavers as a mob. That's derogatory and you should apologise unreservedly .You have your reasons for remaining and leavers have their reasons for leaving and that should be respected. The referendum was fought and democracy is what stops people with pitchforks descending on Buckingham palace

 

[Sean]

You are certainly correct, very interesting:

We're still in a negotiating phase but this announcement follows a pattern of scaremongering and intimidation.

 

[Edwin]

You referred to leavers as a mob.

That is completely false. My original post talked about Leave.EU, a specific organisation (recently in the news for all sorts of wrong reasons relating to the possible abuse of personal information) NOT about leavers in general. I said nothing whatsoever about the latter.

So please don’t create a straw man accusation. Let’s stick to the domain and IP aspects, eh?