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flip.uk - .UK Domain Auctions and Marketplace

Discussion in 'Domain Tools' started by lazarus, May 3, 2020.

  1. lazarus

    lazarus Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    Hi Webber,
    I did shorten it from 5 minutes to 2 as it can drag on a bit and I think 2 minutes is long enough to get a bid in.
    What do others think?

    I will go with the masses on this one.
    I will put the cut / paste import form into the development list.
     
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  3. WalkinDude United Kingdom

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    5 mins. At any time someone's device or computer can crash or something goes belly up. 5 mins ensures enough time to find another device. Wifi can go for example.

    That said Rome wasn't built in a day and I'm personally delighted the number of options is increasing for UK Domaining.

    [whispers too much grey on the webpage feels like there's a colour missing].
     
  4. lazarus

    lazarus Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    I have set it back to 5 minutes :)
     
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  5. Hay

    Hay Active Member Exclusive Member

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    @lazarus - I've not used flip yet but just looked at the homepage for the first time and i felt lost with all the domains listed, i know each card/section has a header but you really have to look through the page to identify which is which.

    For example on DL they have showcases on the homepage then gems on another tab, maybe you could add a colored section for showcases perhaps even on its own row so nothing else is shown on that row.

    I think if you were to help some auctions stand out better than others then you would attract more bids because with this being the first visit i honestly couldn't tell you which domains are bids and which are not and which are auctions and which are not... obviously after spending several minutes on the site you would know what's what but i assume on my 2nd visit i would forget and have to check through them all again.

    I think if i recall, most websites have no more than 2-3 seconds to grab the visitor's attention before they hit back or go to the next website, i think you could make it much more attractive to bidders if you could highlight areas better.

    great job so far though, i know how time consuming it is :)
     
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  6. lazarus

    lazarus Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    Hi Ben

    Thanks for that.
    You are spot on. the first 2-3 is very important and I will be working on some of your ideas to improve this.
    Yes very consuming but input from users is gold dust and I do plan to spend more time on the user experience.

    Cheers!
     
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  7. super-whois United Kingdom

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    I wouldn't usually share sales data, but as a one off, I thought I’d share some of my flip.uk auction sales stats for September. All stats are for auctions that ended in September, therefore some were started in August. These stats are only for auctions, and do not include direct sales.

    Number of domains listed: 44 (some were poor, but nothing too fancy, and mostly .uk drops)
    Number of domains sold: 26 (and one didn't meet a reserve)
    Total sales: £2733
    Average Sale: £105.12
    fli.uk Platform Fees £0

    Had I listed these on a different platform, I probably would not have sold 15 domains, as the sale price was bellow the starting bid of £50, Instead I would have probably lost out on £340 of sales, and end up paying someone £75 for the privilege of being hidden gems.

    Estimation if the same domains were put on a different platform:
    Estimated Sales: £2393
    Estimated platform fees: £240
    Net Sales: £2153

    I therefore think that in September, I was £580 better off by using flip.uk. I could be wrong, but I'm thankful for @lazarus for providing an alternative, along with taking action on a user that was identified as a shill bidder.
     
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  8. Ben Thomas

    Ben Thomas Well-Known Member

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    Yep
     
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  9. Admin

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    That's a brilliant share, thanks for doing that and really well done. Flip for the win.
     
  10. DJ Wood United Kingdom

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    Is it possible to add a delete option to the finished/closed auctions please?

    Thanks
     
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  11. JMI

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    It still looks like overall domains are getting better prices on DL. Free is great, but ultimately if I want to auction something I wanted best price for I'd stick it on eBay and pay the fees, rather than gumtree and hope someone found it. I base this on the number of people using reserves because they are worried about someone getting a bargain. I think the £50 barrier on DL promotes minimum level of quality.
     
  12. Ben Thomas

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    Because DL has been around for years and years. Has established traffic and is well known. Time has been good to DL. And perhaps time will good to Flip too.
     
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  13. JMI

    JMI Active Member Acorn Supporter

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    Agreed, and Rome wasn't built in a day and all that, but if at the end of the day I need to auction my domains for the best price I can't see any benefit.
     
  14. Ben Thomas

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    ... at present. But, you know, Flip needs some big sales to put it on the map. And it’s my belief it will get them. Like I said, DL is old world.
     
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  15. JMI

    JMI Active Member Acorn Supporter

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    eBay and Facebook are old world but unfortunately first move is a massive advantage in business. To write DL off because he's got more important things to do than keep some millenials happy by making it responsive and turning it into a poor mans DAN or Sedo lookalike would be a naive mistake. All the pro domainers who actually have proper, decent domains (not a some .uk ror drops no one wanted) won't give a shit about the DL site cosmetics or that it's not got some fake avatar of a so called "domain sales expert" freak with a weird name on the landing page, they'll care about the credibility of the auction house, millions of pounds of previous sales history and who's running it will enforce fake bids etc. If DL does have a cosmetic redesign what will everyone have to moan about :)
     
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  16. Ben Thomas

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    I am in the car on the way home, but I just briefly read your email and the part about the domain sales expert cracked me up so much that I had to reply with Siri. I agree with you, it is not about site cosmetics, however I do believe that in this day and age more people are browsing the Internet on their mobile devices than they are on desktop. Therefore, a domain law alternative is welcomed, not least because it isn’t run by an egomaniac.
     
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    "All the pro domainers who actually have proper, decent domains" won't be selling on domainlore though, will they? They're more than likely the buyers.

    Even if you have a large number of low-end domains sell due to no-minimum sale price on flip, that qualifies for a shit tonne of bonafide completed transactions, satisfied customers, and sales revenue over a period of time because the entry level is lower.

    That's not a bad thing, because it's a numbers game.

    All it needs is a small handful of half-decent domain sales on its books, maybe with some PR of current/recent eye-catching sales, and it can begin to gain some momentum.

    Further to this, looking at the top 10 Domainlore sales by price alone, how many do you feel should be there? The portfolio of quality domain sales isn't there (in this tiny snippet)

    https://seemly.co.uk/domains/prices?source=domainlore&rows=10&price=desc
     
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  18. Ben Thomas

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    Slightly off-topic, but I'm flabbergasted that someone would spend £30k+ on healthcare.uk, just to put a wall of text and links on it like we're in 1991 o_O

    It's also a shame, most of these domains are either parked, non-functioning "under development" kind of sites, or owned by the government through a proxy of embarrassment (we all know which one I'm talking about there ;) lol). But yes, you're absolutely right. And DL itself started somewhere once. With 0 sales and 0 traffic.
     
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  19. DJ Wood United Kingdom

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    Wasn't HTB.O.UK bought by the infamous Yogi24?
     
  20. super-whois United Kingdom

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    Worth noting:
    holiday.co.uk - The winning bidder has opted in to keep details of this auction private.
    gay.uk - This sale was not completed.
    remortgage.uk - Wrong auction id
    holiday.uk - The winning bidder has opted in to keep details of this auction private.
     
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  21. Ben Thomas

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    Yes, it does beg the question how many of these actually complete.