ID Required to tranfer domain ?

[Slater]

Had Nominet email me today regarding a transfer request I'd sent for a domain I'm selling.

Requested that I fax them proof of ID, never had this before is this due to transfer paperwork now being downloadable.

Mark.

 

[retired_member6]

Proof of id... as if they have anything to compare it to.

 

[charlie]

Proof of id... as if they have anything to compare it to.

fairly standard to ask for a passport or driving licence copy in many places- there must be something traceable (in theory!!) on them - though knowin the goverment - its a smoke screen. in reality i doubt you could ever find me again! :mrgreen:

 

[Jac]

Had Nominet email me today regarding a transfer request I'd sent for a domain I'm selling.

Requested that I fax them proof of ID, never had this before is this due to transfer paperwork now being downloadable.

Mark.

It's probably due to fhe number of complaints made by Acorn Domains about how lax the security in domain name transfers was. Can't have it both ways. If you want a stricter domain name transfer procedure there will have to be stricter checks.

Though I doubt that's what those ridiculing the transfer procedure meant.

Regards
James Conaghan

 

[aqls]

Insult.

Safety of the domain is paramount.

Suggestions for making it safer whilst trying to limit the admin burden included sending an email to the current registrant on any whois change.

Plus "lock" state and a few others.

To support the adding of more adminstration without considering the suggestions we already made, and to then ridicule us about it - well that's just you isn't it JAC.

Why don't you consider the issues rather than just thinking you always know best.

-aqls-

 

[Jac]

Insult.

Safety of the domain is paramount.

Suggestions for making it safer whilst trying to limit the admin burden included sending an email to the current registrant on any whois change.

Plus "lock" state and a few others.

To support the adding of more adminstration without considering the suggestions we already made, and to then ridicule us about it - well that's just you isn't it JAC.

Why don't you consider the issues rather than just thinking you always know best.

-aqls-

I take it you missed my smiley then?

C'est la vie.

 

[texidriver]

My ID

I have never had a problem.

 

[Jac]

Insult.

Safety of the domain is paramount.

Suggestions for making it safer whilst trying to limit the admin burden included sending an email to the current registrant on any whois change.

Plus "lock" state and a few others.

To support the adding of more adminstration without considering the suggestions we already made, and to then ridicule us about it - well that's just you isn't it JAC.

Why don't you consider the issues rather than just thinking you always know best.

-aqls-

Incidentally, I did not support the adding of more administration nor did I not consider the suggestions already made on Acorn Domains; I was simply outgunned and outvoted at the PAB meeting. So it wouldn't matter that I think I know best or not, because Nominet and the PAB are both run on democratic principles. That way you don't get people who think they know best dictating policy to the wider communities; and that IMHO is just as it should be.

As for ridicule, I get plenty of that on here, so if you can't take account of a facetious comment with attached smiley, that's not actually my problem; it's yours.

Regards
James Conaghan

 

[decomposed]

well done JAC I'm sure you did your best.

 

[texidriver]

Jac of all trades, Master of none.

...
As for ridicule, I give plenty of that on here, so if you can't take account of a facetious comment with attached smiley, that's not actually my problem; it's yours.
James Conaghan

...................................

 

[Jac]

I have never had a problem.

Don't flatter yourself.

 

[aqls]

Incidentally, I did not support the adding of more administration nor did I not consider the suggestions already made on Acorn Domains.

Why didn't they take the ideas on board?

-aqls-

 

[Slater]

Fo those of you interested in the types of identification Nominet require :

We will accept a copy of your driving licence, a utility bill in your name, or a bank statement for an account in your name.

I assume your last Nominet invoice would be good to use.

This can be faxed or posted to Nominet.

 

[rob]

I assume your last Nominet invoice would be good to use.

This can be faxed or posted to Nominet.

or phone up accounts and ask them for a duplicate to be posted out, then ask them to pop it down the corridor

 

[Pred]

Phone them

I spoke to them two days ago & they're sending out a bulk transfer form. He asked initially just to send an email listing them etc. I just said there's not hundreds, just a few can he just do it over phone. He said no probs. On it's way. I think they're trying to automate it as they never asked before. I will try & do it over phone where possible. If we all have to do it their way, then what can we do. fax machines get on my tits though. They went out with the dinosaur & i'm buggered if getting one. Oh well. Predator
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

 

[Slater]

As all of us TAG holders already have a secure way of identifying ourselves i.e. PGP signed emails , maybe Nominet could give us a way of validating the transfer using a PGP signed email, would certainly be more secure and credible than a fax of a utility bill and should also help to automate the Nominet end of things.

I would imagine a large number of the transfer requests are actioned by TAG holders.

 

[Jac]

Why didn't they take the ideas on board?

-aqls-

It was not so much that they didn't take them on board; it's more a case that Nominet has plans to automate a lot of the current processes and the fact that the Raising Industry Standards consultation actually entails the "lock state" suggestion. We can't actually tell if free domain name transfers are viable or decide who has the authority to apply a lock state until these plans (and the Raising Industry Standards consultation) have come to fruition.

Eg: if the Tag Holder is allowed to apply a lock state, Nominet needs to ensure there is a reasonable expectation that the Tag Holder will always act honourably.

Regards
James Conaghan

 

[tmsdomreg]

Eg: if the Tag Holder is allowed to apply a lock state, Nominet needs to ensure there is a reasonable expectation that the Tag Holder will always act honourably.

Regards
James Conaghan

With .com etc, the Registry has the authority to over-ride the lock-state set by the ISP in the event of a dispute or transfer refusal. I'm sure this would be the case with Nominet also.

Peter

 

[Whois-Search]

Just think about the accessibility issues here.......

What if you can't use/have't got a photocopier and a fax machine?

What if you haven't got a driving license or passport?

 

[retired_member9]

Don't understand what's all that fuzz about.

A couple of my last transfers perfectly went without confirmatory letter.

I believe it's just a matter of Nom knowing you and allowing common sense
to prevail. Indeed, they had secure *authentic* request from me for the transfer forms, so they were perfectly able to appreciate the green light.

I remember reading about ID requirement before my first transfer ever and was glad nobody then asked for anything alike.

It seems that IDs might only be required, when domain owner is not tag holder and he couldn't prove himself.

Even if it's more strict now, I believe sending nominet pgp-signed e-mail informing that the 'domain transfer of xxx.co.uk from A to B' is in progress and legitimate will be all that's needed.