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Nominet announces new policy consultation for expiring .UK domains

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  1. othellotech United Kingdom

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    Maybe, or handed over to a favourite registrar to auction off on an existing platform ... an incestuous staff/director/software blend has enough precedent to be pretty much SOP.

    Discussing possible implementations (how to do x) is massively premature before we have conclusively exhausted the underlying-rationales (why the f) part - unless you're trying to let us know Nominet have already decided ?


    Not sure on the 400 app-fee (beyond being some time for paperwork checks and historically a small dissuader) but your 100 annual membership fee goes on stuff "for us" like the member events, agm, voting packs and related things.

    Whether you are able to derive at least £100 of direct/indirect "value" from being a member of Nominet is something for a different thread or better yet an event with discussions over beers :)


    The smoke from that would be enough to get the CMA involved *if* the membership overwhelming reply "dont do it" and they go ahead anyway - of course how "fair" it will be once management of .uk gets handed over to a truck driver who doesn't even own a domain (but who is mates with BoJo/Cummings) is questionable - we'll probably all be here pinning for the glory days of Bulgarian cartels ;)


    For which you should be applauded not penalised - I'd suggest making that a formal complaint [ assuming they have someone in the role now - I can't recall if Helen's replacement left or if that was a different "Head of Delivery" ] at least it's then recorded and they have to answer


    Admitting that you don't have a specific skill but know someone else does, and that they should be engaged to perform a necessary task is far more likely to get you thanked not laughed at in a real-world private-sector organisation - but then in the real-world it's not all about little empire building as it appears to be in cctlds and gtlds :p

    Of course in the real-world many flaws get discovered/investigated by 3rd parties, and often shared/solved from that disclosure - bug bounties are only a commercialisation of something which has been going on for over 30 years

    Do Nominet employ clever/talented aka "good" people - normally yes, do they all stick around forever - no, there's been an obvious shift from career to job culturally over the last decade, have they all been great coders-or-whatever - absolutely not, and are Nominet staff or systems ever going to be flawlless - heck no

    Surely a Nominet bug is just a feature they haven't realised they can charged you for yet !
     
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  3. Nigel United Kingdom

    Nigel Well-Known Member

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    I had a strong suspicion he wasn't Michael Crick :)
     
  4. Fred Steven Cyprus

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    So what was this new flaw, and did you say they have already fixed it ?
     
  5. davedevelopment

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    Regarding the consultation, I don't know why this all has to come at once. I think the majority agree on publishing droplists and releasing at a specified time. That should remove the need to collude on DAC access and allow nominet to deal prepare for and deal with the technical requirements in a more consitent manner. Why can't they ship this and then re-assess.

    The question on how nominet should distribute the profits is laughable. I no longer trust nominet to do anything in the interests of others.

    My thoughts are in a weird place on all this, between the collusion and people exploiting flaws I don't know about, my dropcatching is virtually non-existent now, yet I still like the buzz...
     
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  6. Lovekraft United Kingdom

    Lovekraft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How did you get hold of his script? Someone has obviously shared it with you when they shouldn't have..
     
  7. Hay

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    Because he sold it to every tom dick and harry hence why its been passed around...
     
  8. keano United Kingdom

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    I always thought Nominet were a non-profit organisation. They certainly were at the start.

    On the Nominet about us page there is no mention of non-profit, so I'm wondering whether they are or they aren't?

    I understand that the charitable foundation was dropped in the last couple of years. So where would the profits of the proposed auctions and EPP access actually be going as my understanding is that they are already quite "profitable" even if they are (or aren't technically anymore) classed as a "non-profit". I'm confused...
     
  9. PoshTiger United Kingdom

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    Indeed.. and he's somehow bragging about it.. This guy is as toxic as they come..
     
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  10. PoshTiger United Kingdom

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    No I didn't.. and you shouldn't have it..
     
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  11. PoshTiger United Kingdom

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    One person shared it and I know who it was... They then shared it etc..
     
  12. Murray

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    Tony sold a script for the RoR release that I used that worked beautifully

    He has also done well with his own script generally so I don't know how you can knock it

    @Hay If someone shared his script without permission shame on them and you would think you would have enough shame not to admit picking over it
     
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  13. BREWSTERS United Kingdom

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    A lot of non-profits and large charities are run for salary, rather than as a benefit to others.
     
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  14. Derek Portugal

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    Its a game of "best cheater wins". Of course they're going to steal each others work when a chance arises. They're all in direct competition to see who can break the rules in the most profitable way, its very naive to expect any level of honesty between any of them.
     
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  15. Murray

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    I did word it specifically "you would think you would have enough shame not to admit picking over it"

    If something falls in your lap and it could give you a competitive edge then yeah of course you're going to look but if you know you've got it through illicit means at least have the decorum to keep it to yourself, let alone rub it in their faces that they're had their hard work leaked

    Is there no honour amongst thieves tut tut
     
  16. gregfindley

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    Agreed.
    https://www.nominet.uk/corporate-governance/members/
    https://media.nominet.uk/wp-content...net-Response-2019-.UK-Policy-Consultation.pdf

    So they received responses from 2.56% of members. Why is there not a minimum threshold or a voting system for introducing big changes to registry policies?

    Why haven't they shown any quotes from the alternative side to the changes suggested? I know I was one of the 2.56% who responded, and I know my answers were very different to the anonymous quotes they've added in their consultation document linked above.
     
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  17. Derek Portugal

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    Denis used his blog to out multiple people.

    Rob used a note on the UKBA homepage to encourage people to complain to Nominet about BHAYDOM.

    Its not much of a surprise BHAYDOM is now using Acorn to gloat and annoy people.
     
  18. Hay

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    Lets get one thing right... i guarantee each and every one of you would keep your mouths shut if you had some competitive edge, at least i had the arse to speak to nominet and give them step by step instructions on how to replicate and fix open flaws... any of you greedy fuckers would have sat on it and cleaned up for months on end and those that are not able to code something themselves just turn to bitching because jealously gets the better of them and they are clueless on how to build a better script for their own use rather than relying on 3rd party scripts or renting someone like Robs for a 50% share of any catch they get...!!

    im my eyes im all for nominet changing and removing dac.. Im going to suggest a given account can buy unlimited connections as oppose to 60 or whatever they plan... Anything to ensure that more than 1 account is rendered useless.. and if they can't do that then auction every domain themselves and everyone can send xmas cards to ukbo saying thankyou.
     
  19. LCHappy United Kingdom

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    Shame Rob got you banned when helptobuyorg.uk dropped, that would have been nice.That must hurt a bit, surely?
     
  20. mcrick Portugal

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    If Nominet simply began publishing domain name drop times, negating the requirement for using the DAC, how many currently free registrar tags that are linked to existing Nominet memberships as well as currently free tags that wouldn’t be linked to any Nominet membership do you think would immediately be applied for, each giving 6 additional EPP connections and additional EPP create requests? The cost to register a domain name with a free to obtain non-member linked registrar tag is £80+VAT, payable only when a successful registration occurs. Very cheap for a very desirable domain name that would sell on for a multiple of that.
     
  21. mcrick Portugal

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    No. Consultations are open to anyone. Consultation’s aren’t votes. Nothing unique about this and Nominet. Look at OFCOM and many other consultations.