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UK geo domains

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  1. twostepsbehind United Kingdom

    twostepsbehind Active Member Acorn Supporter

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    Hello,

    What would be a sensible price to ask for to sell geo domains? - serving a populations of 25k to 50k

    (.uk domains)

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  3. Adam H

    Adam H Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    I think it massively depends on the geo and whether its hyper local such as a big town or city, or whether they are counties. County based geos, especially of the .uk I actually don't see as that valuable from a resell point of view, for example I'd love to get hold of a few surrounding counties, but they wouldnt be for projects which could justify a sensible outlay, so id rather use a longer tail domain if it meant the expensve.

    Big City Geo's on the other hand, easier to monetise, have that prestiege so could be snapped up for bragging rights and monitisation. Obviously just my opinion. I'm sure others disagree, especially those with big geo portfolios :D
     
  4. stitchbob

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    The .uk geos have one advantage over their co.uk counterparts - managed well, they can become an SLD in their own right. For a directory site, that means your customers can have example.brighton.uk which might have more appeal to certain clients than co.uk, especially if you're working with local branches of a national company, or a name that's already taken.

    I've had my eye on some of them for exactly that purposes. However, I'm not invested enough in the idea to pay the kind of money that GEO's usually command, so I'm just going to take my chances. Obviously I'll be throwing my hat into the ring for Manchester.
     
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    Better check as I'm exhausted and not thinking straight, but my understanding was .uk domains could not be used in this way.
     
  6. Trauiner United Kingdom

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    .UK geo domains hold pretty much no value for resale. If you have a lot of .UK geo domains, there's a reason for that. No-one wanted them.

    People in the UK are truly accustomed to typing in .co.uk - Could someone build a business and rely on google type-in traffic for a .UK domain, yes. However, they're always at a high risk that the .co.uk domain holder can come in and wipe out their business and become the authority website with relative ease.
     
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  7. Robert Smith United Kingdom

    Robert Smith Active Member Full Member

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    Disagree - the market will change once people realise the SEO benefits of .uk versus .co.uk - this may be accelerated if google.co.uk becomes google.uk - similar to nominet.

    We have split test 100+ domains and .uk outperforms by a mile.

    just saying!
     
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  8. stitchbob

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    I'm not aware of any such restrictions on what you can do with .uk domains specifically. Bear in mind I'm not talking about setting yourself up as a registrar and selling hosting etc for subdomains of your .uk, but as far as I'm aware, there's nothing stopping you setting up manchester.uk as a directory site, and setting up subdomains like northernquarter.manchester.uk or even more specific ones like affleckspalace.manchester.uk
     
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    Go on, tell us more. Because this goes against 99% of what I believe in.
     
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    dee Well-Known Member Acorn Supporter

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    Can you expand please ? This sounds pretty interesting
     
  11. Robert Smith United Kingdom

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    We purchased a lot of domains (perhaps 50-100) and popped 2,500 words on each site (a different 2,500 for .uk and .co.uk)
    .uk always outranked co.uk

    We also tested an aged domain name versus a new .uk version -
    An example is here: https://www.taxifinance.uk - the .uk is 20 ish years old

    .uk was around top 20 for first year of launch. .co.uk version was 150 in google. Since then we redirected the .co.uk domain to the .uk.

    We have 500 websites in 80 countries around the world and .uk outranks .co.uk in every situation.
     
  12. Robert Smith United Kingdom

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    Buy the hype, sell the news.

    You are correct - they are hard to sell. Acquire them now cheap and you will see the value as the market changes
     
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  13. twostepsbehind United Kingdom

    twostepsbehind Active Member Acorn Supporter

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    Plus with all the new gTLDs, simpler, easier to digest domains will come out on top

    As a domainer, .co.uk looks obsolete now...
     
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  14. Trauiner United Kingdom

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    No offence but you're either talking out your backside because you want to sell the .UK domains you have or you have literally no experience in split testing to read the results properly. Can you provide any in-depth case study? If the domain extension was as powerful as you say, all the big .co.uk sites would be changing to .UK as their primary.

    They're not because it makes no difference to them.

    Stop spreading fake and pure false information.
     
  15. Robert Smith United Kingdom

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    Great - so you have split test domains yourself to have such a strong opinion. Didn't think so. Probably some 60 year hater. Get a life
     
  16. Trauiner United Kingdom

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    No. I'm just not sure you realise how much of a big claim you're saying and not a claim you should make without any sort of verifiable proof because it makes you look very inexperienced.

    What you're saying is literally a SEO industry changing comment for UK domain extensions.

    You've come out and said you have proof that currently .uk domains are currently better for ranking than .co.uk - That's not a light claim to make. It also seems like something not one single SEO company has figured out, yet you have.

    For starters the amount of domains you've used aren't enough to split test accurately and especially on new websites, that's not something easily trackable.
     
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    I said it because that is my experience - which i have seen with my own eyes. I don't resell domains so have nothing to gain from saying this. I have personally built 500+ websites - you can take what i say with a pinch of salt but there is no agenda
     
  18. Trauiner United Kingdom

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    That's fair enough. It just means you don't have much experience in split testing and understanding results.

    If you honestly believe the results you have, I would recommend compiling a case-study and selling it to the SEO companies. Apart from nearly all of them laughing at the results, you may get one that will buy it hoping they've struck gold information.
     
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    Don't poke the beast Robert, more often than not "research" is best kept to yourself.
     
  20. Robert Smith United Kingdom

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    This is a place for sharing information - i have a job and am very successful - but thanks for the tip
     
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    Adam H Well-Known Member Exclusive Member

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    Just to note, I wasn't being condecending.
     
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