A great thread...
The reason why i went for the .org.uk is because the .com is an American website and that the .co.uk has been registered by someone who has it parked on Sedo from the day he registered it.
I sympathise with pretty much if not all of what you say on this thread. The fact that .org.uk registrants have been completely ignored imo is the biggest hole in the announcement, more than the five year sunrise.
I have a client who had to go for the .org.uk (a small independent tradesman) who had to opt for it when the .co.uk domainer wanted what would have equated to months worth of profit to him. If it had been listed on DL I think it would have fetched low xxx. Ironically the domainer just dropped it so I snapped it up for him. A bit of a rarity.
In my opinion if someone builds a website on a .org.uk domain just because the .co.uk domain is already taken, they have done so in the knowledge that they don't own the best extension...
If you feel like you have the right to the ".uk" domain then you should also feel like you have the right to the ".co.uk" domain.
But in the same sentiment as above, there are small business owners who are essentially locked out owning the "best" .co.uk because some domainers were / are asking wholly disporporiate asking prices, obviously going on the faith that the domain will mature. All domainers take different views on valuations. It's a shame that with the introduction of .uk, knowing the option that .co.uk registrants have, it offers the .org.uk registrants sod all.
Nominet could easily have contacted all end registrants if it really wanted to, god knows they're quick enough sending you email after email when it looks like you're dropping domain names or when it is canvassing for your opinion!
Well said, the most relevant post on this thread imo. Tell me if I'm wrong, but it looks as though the millions of registrants, who lets face it are the most important stakeholders, have basically been ignored?
What was the issue with the DPA? Nominet have my email address? They have my mailing address? The DPA would be the best excuse for a cop out I think I've ever heard for something as important as this.
They will be once .uk is launched, if we're talking about ones registered for commercial use as a substitute for the unavailable .co.uk. While we have no way of knowing which of .co.uk/.uk will rule supreme in the short/medium/long term, it seems pretty obvious that .org.uk will play third fiddle to the two key extensions.
Yes and no. I agree that they'll definitely play third fiddle and become the least desirable option, but they're
already the least desirable between .co.uk, and as .co.uk will essentially equate to the .uk, I don't see how much will change? I can't imagine domainers would split a .co.uk / .uk package... so for peeps who for whatever reason don't have the .co.uk / .uk, the .org.uk will continue be a next best, logical option.
I think the only thing that would affect .org.uk going forward is if Google alter how they're treated in the SERPs for commercial entities. Guessing how many of these websites exist I can't see them doing anything drastic in this dept.
I think the majority of people who are complaining about the .uk going to the .co.uk owner, are probably people who have invested time and money in .org.uk domains since the consultation began, purely to try to get the the .uk domain over the current .co.uk owner. I'm not saying this is true in every case.
For all my arguments over the past couple of days, I think it's fair that the .uk go to the .co.uk registrant if it HAD to go to one or other. Obviously I think there should have been better options for the lowly .org.uk registrant
Well there should have better options for everyone, but I'll stop banging that drum.
The value of org.uk's don't change for me, I see no reason for them to change.
+1 to that whole post.