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A great thread...
I sympathise with pretty much if not all of what you say on this thread. The fact that .org.uk registrants have been completely ignored imo is the biggest hole in the announcement, more than the five year sunrise.
I have a client who had to go for the .org.uk (a small independent tradesman) who had to opt for it when the .co.uk domainer wanted what would have equated to months worth of profit to him. If it had been listed on DL I think it would have fetched low xxx. Ironically the domainer just dropped it so I snapped it up for him. A bit of a rarity.
But in the same sentiment as above, there are small business owners who are essentially locked out owning the "best" .co.uk because some domainers were / are asking wholly disporporiate asking prices, obviously going on the faith that the domain will mature. All domainers take different views on valuations. It's a shame that with the introduction of .uk, knowing the option that .co.uk registrants have, it offers the .org.uk registrants sod all.
Well said, the most relevant post on this thread imo. Tell me if I'm wrong, but it looks as though the millions of registrants, who lets face it are the most important stakeholders, have basically been ignored?
What was the issue with the DPA? Nominet have my email address? They have my mailing address? The DPA would be the best excuse for a cop out I think I've ever heard for something as important as this.
Yes and no. I agree that they'll definitely play third fiddle and become the least desirable option, but they're already the least desirable between .co.uk, and as .co.uk will essentially equate to the .uk, I don't see how much will change? I can't imagine domainers would split a .co.uk / .uk package... so for peeps who for whatever reason don't have the .co.uk / .uk, the .org.uk will continue be a next best, logical option.
I think the only thing that would affect .org.uk going forward is if Google alter how they're treated in the SERPs for commercial entities. Guessing how many of these websites exist I can't see them doing anything drastic in this dept.
For all my arguments over the past couple of days, I think it's fair that the .uk go to the .co.uk registrant if it HAD to go to one or other. Obviously I think there should have been better options for the lowly .org.uk registrant Well there should have better options for everyone, but I'll stop banging that drum.
+1 to that whole post.
I agree with your post MDB, but perhaps there is one factor you are overlooking.
I too have many small business customers who cannot afford to pay the prices demanded. This has always been a major problem for British businesses and consequently many of my own small business clients have had to settle for 'second best' or less appealing domains.
However, these guys on here are not acting in the interest of British business, UK domain requirements or anything else, they are acting in their own interests. This recent news simply means that some of these portfolio holders will be handed thousands of .uk domains on a plate. THAT is why nothing will change in the UK market. The same people that have been holding businesses to ransom on .co.uk domains will now be able to do that with the new .uk domains.
I do understand why they are doing it and why they want to protect their investments, but it has absolutely nothing to do with doing business online or assisting UK business owners in a positive way. They're protecting themselves and their portfolios of names, if you bear that in mind then most of the double standards, attempted market manipulation, self congratulation and hand-rubbing on these threads will make sense.
Unfortunately we have to go with it, there isn't much my business clients, or the thousands of other businesses that are pissed off with things, can do. Thats why I have bought over 100 domains here on AD, mostly for business clients, basically because they cant be registered normally and essentially I have no choice.
I'm not a domainer, these guys aren't in conflict with me personally, but I am at the forefront of frustration expressed to me by clients.
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