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MeetDomainers Live Auction

Discussion in 'NameDrive' started by JamesTuplin, Aug 2, 2010.

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  1. JamesTuplin Germany

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    I think Paullas has hit the nail on the head with this. The reason for the domains being priced as they are is due to the fact that it is a "domainers event".

    Whilst I appreciate many of you would have liked to have seen numerous domains priced over 50k GBP, from experience these domains are unlikely to sell. Rather than have an inventory of "pretty" names that wont sell. The aim here is to have reasonably priced domains that WILL indeed sell.

    How many end users do you know, before you call them, that are clued up on domains? Now compare that to the US market.......


    @ Barry, yes gold.co.uk is a nice domain, however there are plenty of other domains for sale of equal quality. I cant just favour 1 persons names and drop the commission to suit yourself, I have to be fair with everyone. If other people are paying the 15%, then why should you be different?

    If you would prefer Gold.co.uk to be "in room" ONLY we can negotiate the commission, however if you are looking for me to contact end users before hand and also stream this auction live and include it, then there are costs both for my time and comission costs we are having to pay ourselves to make this live. Hence the extra 5%.

    Good luck!

    Thanks Graeme.
    I guess I cannot please anyone, its impossible. It is also true what you say that many people are holding the more premium generics and dont want to sell them. 90% of these people I know, they too are paying bargain basement prices. Whilst there is nothing wrong with this :) it is the same people that are looking to put similar domains in the auction for "End user" prices.

    @ TY
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    Meetdomainers is a European domain event. Many attendees that are due to attend are NOT from the UK. There are also a high proportion coming from the states. .co.uk doesnt rule the internet, it would benefit many to take a look at this auction list again and see past the TLD and look at the investment opportunities.

    I also strongly disagree the reserves are unrealistic or poor. Of course not everything will sell, I dont expect it too. However I am sure a large percentage will. Hence the pricing, so that everyone in the room can afford to take at least 1 domain home.

    Whilst I too favour the .uk extension many do not, due to the importance to a business to also own the .com if trading internationally. Germans just use .de, Dutch just .nl, South Africans, .co.za. The .com is not so important in other countries.
     
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    I've managed to get the Thursday night available. Is anyone staying in the Hilton on Thursday 26th August? Anyone want to meet up? I'm travelling down from Newcastle so will need to come down the day before..
     
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    agh just seen this

    August 26th 2010 (Thursday)

    7:00 PM – Late Pre-Conference Get together
    Complimentary drinks in the hotel lobby bar provided courtesy of NameDrive.
     
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    Yup will be there can have that chat we missed in ed the other month :)
     
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    I'll be there sometime late thursday afternoon
     
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    just looked at that auction detail is a complete pile of shite - who set those reserves?
     
  8. JamesTuplin Germany

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    @ Julian
    As they say..... You cant please everyone. Perhaps wait until AFTER the auction, then feel free to jump in the ring and have your say.

    @ Everyone. I will arrive at around 1pm on Thursday. Anyone else getting there that early? If so we can have a few mid day drinks.
     
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    I am comming, i need a room thou at hilton?
     
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    Looking forward to Edwins speach :)
     
  11. JamesTuplin Germany

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    @ DB
    I dont see you registered for the event.
     
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    Myself and a colleague will be staying at the Hilton Thursday and Friday night.

    Would like to meet up with fellow Acorns for domain chat and a few drinks :D
     
  13. JamesTuplin Germany

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    People registered for the event have a cocktail party @ 7pm on Thursday with complimentary drinks.
    You should spot all the Acorn members there as well as all guys from the US.
     
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    MeetDomainers - Pile of sh*t

    Dont hold back Julian say it how it is, lmao, quality... and their was me trying to be diplomatic and nicey nicey without saying such words as crap, rubbish, killing the uk domain market, embarrassing etc etc - Then you come along with the classic " Pile of Sh*t comment, so raw, lol..

    I personally think a UK based Domain Auction should be showcasing the best of what the UK has to offer, but hey that's just my thoughts.. ohhh and Ty's, Greywing's, Whois-search, Paullas's, and Julian's (anyone else???)

    I think that comment is totally defeatist and most likey why you have only sold 135,000 EUROS in the last 2 events which meetdomainers has held....

    This was a good chance for you guys to create a buzz in the UK Market but i feel you have missed the boat sales wise, saying that I think you'll have a great p*ss up with a great bunch of guys (The Acorner's) - yet nothing really to shout about regarding sales etc, which is a shame...

    Barry
     
  15. JamesTuplin Germany

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    How about this then Barry. I list "1" domain of your choice at 10% commission if you are so sure it will sell.
    This domain should be priced above 15,000 GBP. Meaning it should be the most "premium" domain at the show.

    If the domain does not sell you donate 5% of the listed sales price to a charity of my choice?

    You really must understand that this is a domainers Auction, priced so that everyone can be involved.

    Which were nothing to do with NameDrive.
     
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    I have to admit, I understand that there are two sides to every story, but my comments about the auction event were based on facts such as this:

    The following lots are included in the auction with the reserve prices next to them:

    apartmentrentals.im & apartmentrentals.co.im £200
    propertyrentals.im & propertyrentals.co.im £200
    holidayhomes.co.im £100
    holidays.co.im £100
    carhire.co.im £100
    cheaphotels.co.im £100
    flights.co.im £100

    For anyone who's not aware .im and .co.im are both Isle of Man domains (which cost £40 per year) - and I guess that they are being sold on the strength of their keywords?

    So there are 7 .co.im domain lots with reserves of £100 and up listed in the auction of 45 lots overall .....

    As it currently stands Money.co.im, Diamonds.co.im and Mortgages.co.im are all free to register (as is almost every other top keyword in .co.im), which I think shows the decision to include the above .co.im names in a UK auction with reserve prices to be a bit odd.

    TBH I find it difficult to see how an experienced domainer wouldn't think that the selection of these names was a bit strange personally...
     
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    T.R.A.F.F.I.C Dublin...

    Hi James,

    I really wanted to keep the name listed within the UK Market and tried my best to get you guys to agree the 10% commission, unfortunately I'm unable to list it now as I was approached direct from Rick Latona who has now taken it under his wing for the T.R.A.F.F.I.C event in Dublin on the 24/25th of this month and now advertising it on his home page and here: http://www.ricklatona.com/2010/08/1...d-off-at-t-r-a-f-f-i-c-dublin-on-august-25th/

    I will PM you separately outside the thread regarding other names if you're interested in listing those?

    Barry
     
  18. JamesTuplin Germany

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    Hi Ty,
    Whilst I appreciate your concerns, these domains were added just to start the Auction off. Again, because they are domains that anyone can afford.

    I remember people thinking it was odd to have a .co.za domains in the traffic auctions, those domains fly.co.za sold @ $65,000 and porn.co.za @ $45,000 . They may sell, they may not. But you cannot argue that they are affordable keyword rich domains.

    I will ensure that by the end of the year NameDrive will feature a premium UK auction with higher reserves and higher quality domains, but again, I must state that the object here was not to sell every domain for 50k upwards, but to make the auction available to all.
     
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  19. JamesTuplin Germany

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    I agree, if you do:

    You list "1" domain of your choice at 10% commission if you are so sure it will sell.
    This domain should be priced above 15,000 GBP. Meaning it should be the most "premium" domain at the show.

    If the domain does not sell you donate 5% of the listed sales price to a charity of my choice?
     
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    Hi James,

    I would be agreeing to that offer all day long if i knew the right people were in the room, but as you said on a number of occassions within this thread " its just for domainers ", and if people are struggling on acorn to get above £10k prices at zero % acorndomain commission prices, then why would i want to pay 5% if the name didnt sell, I'm not that crazy, lol, albeit some would argue otherwise :p

    Lets just say 10% commission and ill fire over some names for you to play with, if they sell the sell, if they dont heyhoo you buy me a drink :)

    Barry
     
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    Give James a break(s).com

    I'll be honest with you though Barry...

    Even if gold.co.uk etc were in the auction they wouldn't sell for the price you want for it. How many acorners do you know with a spare million dollars? Fair enough it would raise the profile of the auction and be good PR for the UK secondary market, however the media would then be watching to see if it sold?

    You may be lucky and sell it to one of the mega rich guys in Dublin, however I doubt it is going to happen in Manchester. You would do far better to develop those names fully and find an end user to sell them to?

    In my opinion James has the right idea behind the auction list (listing them so everyone has something they can afford) however some of the reserves and extensions are not very realistic - but we will see what happens on the day.

    That said I think Namedrive do deserve credit for what they are trying to achieve and getting us all together in the first place - our feedback and bids will no doubt make the next event even better.
     
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